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10-02-2012, 05:30 AM   #1
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Which UWA prime for a trip to Venice...

Hi all.

I'm off to Venice for a special (milestone) birthday treat in January and wondered what advice Penaxians could give me for a suitable prime to complement my K-5 and 43/1.9.

I'm guessing a 15/4 but would that be too wide? I've never been to Venice but I believe there's tight streets and canal-ways. Could a 21/3.2 get me by? I don't really fancy a zoom (tbh) but wold I be better off going for a 16-50/2.8?

There is always another option from non-Pentax brands. So perhaps a UWA Leica-R or Zeiss C-Y? But these are going to be stupid $$$ so out of the question.

Any advice will be greatly and well received.

Thanks in advance

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One can get above average pics from some of the water taxi routes or even a brief inexpensive gondola ride. There are also many bridges to use and also walkways along some of the major waterways.

As for lens'. If there has even been one single Pentax lens that I would not suggest using (or even retaining) it would be the Pentax 16-50, it's really about that bad. That bad in focus motor issues, even also locking in manual focus as well, to make it even better zoom lock issue. But any prime that it wider than the 43 would work for Venice.

And although I would not normally suggest that anyone use new equipment without testing it throughly first... You also may want to consider the market for a majority of Europe for camera purchases - even Venice, but also throughout Italy and the remainder of Europe. One may very easily find better camera, lens, even gadget bag prices over there but preferably only from reputable dealers.
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I suggest the 15/4 limited or a Sigma 10-20. You'll want wider than 20mm on crop.
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I would also consider suggesting a 10-20. My last trip to venice was in 1996, so my shots were all film, where my widest lens was a 24mm (equal to 16mm in digital FOV) I could have used wider for some shots. I can see covering a range from 10-perhaps 80 mm in venice, as there are not too many needs for a long lens.

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My small experience in Rome told me that a 15mm would have been wide enough in most instances.

Most of my photos were taken with the da18-55 at 18mm and that was not wide enough.

A 10-20 would have been really wonderful for churches and "large" scale landscape.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Thesorus Quote
A 10-20 would have been really wonderful for churches and "large" scale landscape.
you will find once the 10-20 goes on the camera, it stays there a long long time, when touring european cities
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The 15mm is perfect for Venice - used it 80% of the time on our anniversary trip in 2010 (over 2500 images); I'd also consider picking up a WR 18-55mm just in case, came in handy for me on a couple of days with rainy weather.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pxpaulx Quote
The 15mm is perfect for Venice - used it 80% of the time on our anniversary trip in 2010 (over 2500 images); I'd also consider picking up a WR 18-55mm just in case, came in handy for me on a couple of days with rainy weather.
Just a question, is it your widest lens? If so, using it 80% of the time suggests you could have used wider too. That's why I suggested the 10-20

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
Just a question, is it your widest lens? If so, using it 80% of the time suggests you could have used wider too. That's why I suggested the 10-20
I've been down those roads (owned all 3 at some point, 10-20, 10-24 and 12-24). That was why I think the 15mm is the best option for the OP since he indicated a preference for compact primes (or at least, not for zooms!). I got tired of carrying around a bag full of heavy lenses long ago! They have their place, but for travel I think primes are a great option.

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QuoteOriginally posted by pxpaulx Quote
I've been down those roads (owned all 3 at some point, 10-20, 10-24 and 12-24). That was why I think the 15mm is the best option for the OP since he indicated a preference for compact primes (or at least, not for zooms!). I got tired of carrying around a bag full of heavy lenses long ago! They have their place, but for travel I think primes are a great option.
interesting, the reason I asked is i often visit paris with either a 14 or 16 mm prime, when travelling on business, and always find in a lot of spots that I need a wider lens. I have been to venice as I noted previously with the equivelent to a 16mm prime on digital before, and it really is not quite there.

Ideally someone would come out with a rectalinear prime in the 10-12mm range, or a (forgive me for saying this) full frame camera so I can use my 14/2.8 on the larger format
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I'd go for the 15/4 Ltd. Love that lens for travel and scenery. Nice and small too. I also have the 40 Ltd and as a small light travel kit, together they are great!
I also have a 8mm fisheye and while it's fun I find the 15 covers 95% of my wide needs with much better IQ and much smaller size.
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Samyang is supposed to start selling an APS-C 10mm soon (I'm guessing before January in any case).
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I was in Venice last year this time for more than a week (and another week in other places in Italy). I had with me my K-7 and 3 lenses DA 18-55 WR kit lens, the DA 35mm F2.4 and the DA 55-300.

Routinely I kept the 18-55 on camera (conveniently water resistant) and the DA 35 in my pocket for interior dark spots. The 55-300 was used very little (mostly because it was too big to carry it everywhere).

When I analyzed the 1,465 pictures for focal lengths (from Venice and other places) here are my statistics:

18mm 24% (from the kit 18-55 lens)
35mm 32% (mostly from the DA 35)
55mm 10% (mostly from the kit lens)

All other focal lengths were equally distributed between 18-55 in the remaining 32%. About 2% were shot with more than 55mm.

The lesson learned, was that I needed wider than 18mm a quarter of the time, and very little need for telephotos above 80mm.

If you can stomach the strange projection of a fisheye lens, it will be very appropriate for many areas in Venice.
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I doubt you'll find the 15 too wide. And I'm sure that you'd find use for the entire zoom range of a 10-20. It's mostly a question of size/weight versus wideness/versatility.

I'm happy with my 15/4.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Might need to grab a 15/4 Ltd. But first need to get the K-5 + 43/1.9 back from the shop (serious difficulties in getting rid of Front Focus issues after they fixed back focus issues and gave me a replacement lens!) Sigh... Would really like to use my camera but it's spending more time in the shop than in my hands!

Cheers...
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