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10-15-2012, 07:47 AM   #1
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50/2.8 - Which one's a keeper

Recently i'v acquired whole bunch of MF normal primes in m42 mount. So, now i am thinking about sorting through them to decide which to keep and which to get rid of or trade. Obviously i have not had time to test each thoroughly, so decided to ask for other people's input on the subject matter.

OK so i have:

2.8/50's
Meyer-Optik Domiplan vs ISCO-Gottingen Westanar vs Industar 61L/Z

Out of these three, so far used Industar 61 more frequently, and enjoyed its performance, but have not tried two others to decide. Westanar looks just delish though, and like Domiplan goes all the way to F22.

2.0/58's

CZJ Biotar 2/58 vs Helios 44-2 vs Helios 44M

Biotar has dented filter ring, focuses smooth and aperture stops to F22 (very nice), but has some dust inside. Tested it lightly, though nice performer - it has not shown anything extraordinary (like 44-2) so far. Thoroughly tested 44-2 and 44M. I choose 44-2 over 44M, but still need to compare it to Biotar.


What would you keep out of these?


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10-15-2012, 09:21 AM   #2
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I would keep Industar & Biotar.

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I would keep Industar & Biotar.
Any particular reason why Industar is better than Westanar or Domiplan?
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Domiplan is regarded as one of the worst lenses ever, Westenar so so and Industar is regarded as best one among the three from your list, by the way I think all of them are Teessar design.
Biotar is grandpa of the Helios.

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Domiplan is regarded as one of the worst lenses ever, Westenar so so and Industar is regarded as best one among the three from your list, by the way I think all of them are Teessar design.
I've read some mixed reviews on Domiplan, some say it's utter crap, while others praise it.

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Biotar is grandpa of the Helios.
Yep, Helios is based on Biotar design, pretty much its replica. But is it improved replica or not - that's interests me. I've read reviews on Biotar, people complaining on subdued colors. Guess i will have to do some neck to neck testing....

Thanks Tim for the input.
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Biotar has more more blades than Helios, rounded bokeh but later Helioses from 44-4 are multicoated and sharper, 44-7 is regarded as the best Helios. Some swear in the first M39 Helios. So , the best way is to test it and judge it your self. Biotar has greater value, I think it would not hurt if you keep them all

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Here is a good read about Biotar: CZ Jena Biotar 58/2 (my first Zeiss) - Photo.net Classic Manual Cameras Forum and here about Helios: Complete list of Helios lenses - getting closer
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Yup. 12 blades (counted). And F22. I wouldn't even have doubt about keeping it, but the dent on the filter ring and dust inside is what killing it for me. Oh well, i'll keep it, and will get rid of domiplan and westanar to make room/cash for mamiya/sekor 1.4/50 )

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Thanks.
I did in fact came across m39 Helios 44 for $9. Didn't pick it up, the focus ring was stiff beyond any usability. Recently i came across 44-2 with serial number starting 00, thinking about getting it, instead of the one that i already have
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Yes, that's good idea to sell Domiplan and Westenar. Some dust is not problem, it's really difficult to find such old lens without any dust. You can Google for how to fix filter dent.
"Recently i came across 44-2 with serial number starting 00" Don,t became a Helios addict

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Don,t became a Helios addict
I wont, or at least i try not to )
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