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10-28-2012, 04:54 PM   #1
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Need lens for indoor volleyball.

I don't really need a zoom. I can get close enough to the court or crop in. I want something that can stop the action and focus fast. I am considering the pentax 43 mm f/1.9 limited. It looks good on paper.
Any feedback from current owners of the 43 mm,or any other suggestions would be appreciated!

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do you need AF of modern lenses?
the 50mm 1.7 M is pretty good inside
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It's not always how close you can get - it's sometimes how far away you can get and still get the shot. I vote for the DA*200.
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The 43 is great, but you need to be very close to the action to be able to get the shots you'd like.
I agree with a fast telephoto such as a DA* 200, DA* 50-135 if you can get closer, or a Tamron 70-200.

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I've shot volley ball with a 50, if you can stand by the net support you can get some amazing shots.
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Frustrating Shooting conditions...

Sometime the tournament situations have spectators sitting almost on the out of bounds line. Therefore, a prime Lens at long FP will not work.

I originally bought the 50-135 mm 2.8 for this situation, but the focusing lags sometimes. It is still a great portrait lens.
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I ended up using an 85/1.4 for indoor basketball (similar situation and distances) because of the incredibly poor indoor light in most gyms. Catch-in-Focus is your friend.
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I have shot indoor volleyball for more than 3 years. I use a K-7 which is not the best at high-ISO. My basic setup is:
- Voigtlander VL58mm f1.4 for shots with a bunch of 2-3 people and
- Zeiss CZ85mm f1.5 for detailed shots of individual player.

Both lenses are MF, my camera setting is centred-focus point and I use MF (no CIF) with Hi-continuous shooting. Shutter speed: 1/50s minimum or faster. (I tend to prefer 1/200 to 1/500 s if the lighting permit.)

Practically I work from the side line, behind the coach or behind the 1st refereee. I ascertain the distance to the shot (based upon the VB court dimensions (9m by 9 m)), I set the lens to the relevant distance and I fine-tuned manually the focus.

The technique works great from the sidelines even in very poor lighting. Nowadays I tend to use more the CZ85mm f1.4 because it gives me more details on the players.

I gave up on AF lenses because AF confirmation rarely works in low light IMHO and when it does, it is too slow IMO. I also tried a 90mm f2.8 but it is not fast enough IMHO.

Hope that the comments may help.

How is 50-135 for indoor HS sports?-imgp9824b.jpg Lens for Indoor (Gymnastics) Photos-yahui091bb.jpg


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First - It would help if you said what you currently have.

A K-5 with great iso1600 and iso3200 is to give you a gigantic advantage over a K200D (my previous) or even a K10D/K20D. I shot an FIVB women's event with a K-5 and a super takumar 105 f2.8. Usually I was at iso1600, 1/750th and f4. Obviously you won't have that good of lighting but I would increase the iso or decrease the shutter speed before increasing the aperture. I usually focused on zones but overall I had a relatively large DOF so it worked out well.


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Last season i used my Pentax K-r. My new K-5 II arrives today. I am sure the new body will help a lot.
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That's the hard part because you are battling both the lousy Pentax predictive AF system and the relatively slow AF speeds of current K-mount lenses, along with a small selection of fast lenses. OTOH, you do have excellent high ISO capability. The basic requirement is to freeze action at a minimum of 1/750 and fill at least half the frame. Were you able to reach this last season? Most non-commercial indoor venues have mediocre lighting at best.

Without knowing, I would suggest something between 50-85mm, preferably f1.4 in case you need it. My FA-50 f1.4 focuses too slowly for sports and I don't know about other similar lenses on Pentax. Personally I would not consider dealing with manual focus for fast moving sports, but I guess it depends on what you consider to be a "good" sports or volleyball shot, and how many keepers per 100 shots are acceptable.

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Personally I would not consider dealing with manual focus for fast moving sports, but I guess it depends on what you consider to be a "good" sports or volleyball shot, and how many keepers per 100 shots are acceptable.
Or focus on zones and not try to capture every player at every moment. Volleyball players are pretty predictable in where they will go.
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If you're set on using a prime, the Sigma 85mm 1.4 is the nicest lens I've used. I use it for live music photography and it's superb.
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