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11-07-2012, 01:52 PM   #1
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Why pentax f2.8 zoom is so expensive ^_^

I'm wondering why pentax f2.8 long zoom is so expensive. Below is a search I just did on local craigslist for a Nikon 80-200mm f2.8. They are much more affordable than pentax.

Nikon AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1:2.8 ED lens
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If you call retailers, you can get the 50-135 for 899 and the 60-250 for 1399 rather than the insane online MAP.

With that said, Nikon G lenses are still way more expensive.

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Oh, sorry! I can't spend that amount of money for new price.

I'm comparing used price. My point is that many pentax old lenses are over priced. I wish the price can go to reasonable. And this needs help from Pentax to produce more cheaper f2.8 modern lenses.
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It is because the nikon 80-200 is so old. You can still buy them new but I think they stopped production some time ago. Its a bargain for sure. The latest addition is the 70-200 VR and that is very expensive as it is 3 times the price. At least it is in the UK

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QuoteOriginally posted by benhai Quote
Oh, sorry! I can't spend that amount of money for new price.

I'm comparing used price. My point is that many pentax old lenses are over priced. I wish the price can go to reasonable. And this needs help from Pentax to produce more cheaper f2.8 modern lenses.
Both of the Nikon lenses you referenced above are push-pull manual focus zooms - they are nowhere near currently available lens prices (as they shouldn't be, they are old). Pentax didn't have much in the way of F2.8 zooms back in the push-pull zoom era. If you're talking about the older FA* F2.8 zooms, well they are very high quality glass, which will hold (or increase) value over the long term.
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That second link has an AF lens that doesn't AF. And you are linking a much older lens, when the more comparable 80-200 AF-D is about $800 on craiglists. Still cheaper than the $1100 FA*80-200, but let's be reasonable with our comparisons.
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Well this is an option for people who don't want to spend a whole lot of money on new lenses. At least there is an option. Like m42 takumar. It's a way for people to taste the piece of high quality pentax glass without break the bank. Currently not much choices in Pentax for zoom lens. And the 50-135mm f2.8 has almost identical Tokina model. So pentax doesn't seem to be able to make enough lenses for people. SO I think they should do more modern lens to try to catch up. Otherwise, how can I spend $400 to get a pro quality old AF ED 80-200mm f2.8 lens in pentax mount?
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You want a pro quality AF 80-200 F2.8 for Pentax for cheap?

Get a used Tokina 80-200 F2.8. Market price, about $500 or so. Cheaper than even the Tamron 70-200.

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I prefer hanging a lens that matches the camera brand for sure .
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QuoteOriginally posted by benhai Quote
I prefer hanging a lens that matches the camera brand for sure .
This comes at a cost... 3rd party will normally be cheaper. And I have found that the sigma 70-200 is better anyway. AF is faster, it's decently sharp, it's very well built. The only drawbacks I could identify are colour reproduction which is subjective - I find sigma slightly warmer but less saturation in in the greens than the pentaxs' which I personally think is better for skin tones, Weather sealing and asthetic appearance.

The lable on the lens should not determin a lens' worth yet it seems to anyway.
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I prefer hanging a lens that matches the camera brand for sure .
Certain Tokina lens have been rebadged as a Pentax before now.
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QuoteOriginally posted by benhai Quote
I prefer hanging a lens that matches the camera brand for sure .
If you want quality you pay for it, simple as that. Whining on a forum isn't going to change that...
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Certain Tokina lens have been rebadged as a Pentax before now.
Don't forget about the recent Tamron rebadge. If a third party lens fills my needs I don't care about the brand, why would I owe the camera maker to only look at their lenses? Mostly exclusive use of one brand is based on some kind of status symbolism and it isn't really based on actual quality. I for one would really love to get both Zeiss and Voigtländer for my K-5 despite them being third party for their sheer quality, lenses that are at a Pentax level or even higher.
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Certain Tokina lens have been rebadged as a Pentax before now.
Tamron too, the old 18-250 super zoom was a Tamron.

Old AF Nikon stuff is much more common than old AF Pentax stuff, especially the higher end glass. That also comes into play when determining value, if supply is higher than demand then the price will be relatively low. The old Pentax branded f2.8 AF zoom was an FA*, a very high end lens that was not sold in high quantities, so it is very expensive now.
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Keep in mind that Pentax didn't sell as many fast zooms back in the day as Nikon so they're also more rare today.
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