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11-27-2012, 12:23 PM   #16
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i would get a FF and keep my APS-C and im FF ready with lenses I only have 2 APS-C lenses so im good to go

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QuoteOriginally posted by tabl10s Quote
will you go:

a)All FF and re-purchase your favorite non-FA lens

b)Stay with top APS-C

c)Do both?

I may go 2 FF/1 APS-C or vice-versa.

1 FF and 1 top of the line APSC, so can continue to use all my DA lenses. But will get AA filter-less camera from now on for APSC.

Just pre-order my K5IIs, will use K5IIs +K5 now. Time to sell my K200D.
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Let me see, what would I get with FF, that I don't have already. It would need to have resolution of about 35-40 MP to out resolve the K 5 for birding, going wide, I have the sigma 10-20 which can cover full frame at 13mm, and I have the 14mm samyang full frame any way, so how much wider can I go, the sigma 12-24 gets me 1 mm more in FOV.

Ok I can use my 85/1.4 a little closer to fill the frame, and play with DOF, but unless it can do 256K ISO what does it really give over the K5? Not enough. If i need FF for special occasions, I use , what was that funny plasticky and silver stuff, oh yea, now I remember, FILM in my PZ1
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
Yeah, ~1000,- or ~10.000,-, who on earth needs something in between?!?
If money is an issue, then you're MUCH better off buying an APS-C camera and great lenses to go with it.

If resolution is an issue (to that extent) then money shouldn't be a problem.

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A lot would depend on the size, specification and performance of a new format Pentax. If it was the size of the K-5, and possessed the same degree of ergonomic comfort, then the only reason I'd keep my K-5 in the long term would be as a backup camera. My DA lenses are the 14, 15, 16-50, 18-135 and 50-135, but in 35mm format the 14 and 15 are better than covered by my FA20, the 50-135 by my FA*80-200 and the 18-135 by my 28-200 Tamron. That leaves the only gap as the DA16-50, which is not quite covered by my A35-105. There's a pity: that's the one lens I probably use most on my K-5.

So, the short-term answer, all being as described, would be to keep both systems. In the long term, I'd probably have to sell my *istD and K20D if I got rid of the DA lenses, so I don't know yet if I'd do that. Maybe I'd pass one on to my non-DSLR using daughter, and the other to my Canon-using other daughter!

Otherwise, I'd stick with what I've got. However, I can't imagine Pentax would produce a monster, un-ergonomic 35mm DSLR body, so it looks like the odds are against this scenario. Farewell LBA, and hello CBA.

PS: I forgot the Sigma 10-20/3.5! Now, that would be hard to replicate in 35mm - any suggestions welcomed.

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The only crop lens I have is a DA 15 Limited, and BOY would I miss that one!

I think I might struggle to find a reasonably priced 20-24mm autofocus FF prime with similar color, contrast, and flare resistance.
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Probably both ... keep the K-5 ... own a lot of legacy glass and Adaptall-2 & a few DA (except that the DA 35/2.4 is FF compatible ). A lot depends on the spec's ... J
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QuoteOriginally posted by gabriel_bc Quote
If (when) FF does come out, I'm more worried about the effect on the used lens market than anything. I doubt you'll see lenses like the F35-70 go for $50 in a Pentax FF world. For the last year or so I've been getting my FF/AF ducks in a row...
I doubt you would see much of an effect. The overall take rate of the FF model would still be pretty low compared to APSC unless we've reached a point where it could be priced just above the K-5 launch (like $2000). I also don't see a lot of people spending $2000+ on a camera and buying enough old zooms to see a big price increase. Although I do get a little concerned that lenses like the M20 or M85 could be priced out of the reasonable range because they are rarer and already in demand.

Of course we could continue to see prices rising due to the explosion of ILC's (not just Pentax but all of the adaptable cameras).

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QuoteOriginally posted by abacus07 Quote
Although I do get a little concerned that lenses like the M20 or M85 could be priced out of the reasonable range because they are rarer and already in demand.
I expect the higher-end stuff like the FA limiteds and the zooms like the FA 28-70/2.8 and FA 20-35/4 to increase. Maybe it's time to save up for the 43 Limited...
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I agree. I think the FA ltds will be re-released though with new coatings and WR to go with a WR camera so I wouldn't be surprised if they saw 25+% increases.

If I had more disposable income I would buy the M20, FA43 and either the FA77 or the M85 right now. But I just can't justify it right now. Maybe next year though.
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At this point, I haven't been convinced that I want a full-frame camera but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to abandon APS-C.
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I'm about to buy a '21, so the company could help me out by making the FF dual mode so that I wouldn't have to get rid of anything.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tabl10s Quote
I'm about to buy a '21, so the company could help me out by making the FF dual mode so that I wouldn't have to get rid of anything.
There would definitely be an autocrop mode on the FF model. If you're on the fence perhaps you should get the M20f4 since it's also quite small and it's available for 250ish.
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I'm not buying anymore manual lenses( the last was an A1.2)unless it's the A 135 1.8.

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As fun and interesting as a Pentax FF sounds, I can't see myself needing (and having the funds for) a FF in the near future...

So option B, for now I guess. Maybe C sometime later on.
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