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11-28-2012, 03:46 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
I described it as "ominous" once in another thread.

While I don't have the 35/2.4, it seems to be like my Tamron 17-50/2.8,
very sharp in a slightly soulless, digital fashion.
Ok, we went from "Character" to "Soul" an even more challenging word to define........

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hehe... well, talking about the "object" only, can we agree that this 35 macro can be a good option (especially with the quick shift one can use to fasten it)?
Docrwm, you purposed the 35/2,4 for many reason: what would be a good brother to the 35/2,4 for macros which I can buy with it? I see you use several manual in your profile... could you suggest me some (remembering I have just the 50/1,4)?
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sigma 30 can create a photo having a very good object separation which is good for portrait. It may not be in your top consideration.
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DA35 macro is also very small. Something to consider if you like to travel with less bulk.

Sigma 30 is nice, but imo not a generalist lens due to edge softness.

Samyang, MF only, it depends on how well/fast you can MF.


IMO, I would just get DA35/2.4 or FA35/2.
They aren't macro, but they focus to about 30cm.
DA35-macro is a bit short when it comes to bugs, so if I need a macro, I'd use a 100mm.
Of course DA35-macro does allow one to go nearer than the other two 35mm, you'd need to think over how often you do that in a walkabout. (do you really need macro or do you just need to get a close shot??)

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QuoteOriginally posted by Docrwm Quote
Ok, we went from "Character" to "Soul" an even more challenging word to define........
But "soulless" isn't. In Dorothy Parker's words,
it just means there's no "there" there.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pinholecam Quote
DA35-macro is a bit short when it comes to bugs, so if I need a macro, I'd use a 100mm.
The DA 35 Ltd means you have to approach your bugs with care.
On the other hand, flowers don't seem to be bothered!

Seriously, as I mentioned earlier in this thread,
the DA 35 Ltd is the equivalent
of all those 50mm macros on full frame.
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hehe lytrytyr, what a passion! Thank you for sharing.
Indeed, I already liked before the 35 macro and you just improved that feeling.

QuoteOriginally posted by pinholecam Quote
do you really need macro or do you just need to get a close shot??
that's a good question, though. Before the K-5, I had another camera and I often used its lens to go close to objects/bugs/tiny things to shoot. So I like very close ups. 30 cm is quite already a good distance, even considering the 35 macro 13.9 cm, which is really one of the best (I think).
I have even to put in the basket the fact I only have 400€/520$ for lenses right now, and I dunno when I'll have some more again
Eventually, I've found the 35 macro at 375€ and as well the 90mm tamron at 375€. The 35/2.4 costs at least 175€, but adding it to the tamron, I'm already out of budget (and I do love eating, so I've to keep something for that, too).

QuoteOriginally posted by pinholecam Quote
Sigma 30 is nice, but imo not a generalist lens due to edge softness.
I considered the Sigma as well, during this evaluation trip , and i saw it focuses at 40cm at most, which is a bit more than expected (and means a lot of crops...). Though, it's f/1.4 and can be used much more easily indoor; or for the bokeh, which I love. Anyway, thanks to you, now I've more doubts hehe

Although, thanks guys: you're great advicers! Please, do not exitate writing if you wish: i'll read and thank all your opinions!
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I own both the DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited and the Sigma 35mm f/1.4. I find both lenses excellent as a do everything single lens. Both lenses are terrific performers and to be frank, the supposed edge softness of the Sigma or the supposed slow focusing of the 35mm macro are more FUD than fact. The Sigma shines because it delivers the possibilities of f/1.4 and the 35 macro because of the wide focusing range and sharp images edge to edge. Both have a unique character and I rank them highly because they have proven to be such versatile lenses.

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Thanks creampuff for your opinion. Indeed it's conforting knowing that one is not worse than the other but one doesn't exclude the other for the uses. And moreover both can be used for several and several purposes.

Another small question to understand better which one to choose: I tried again my 50mm at 1.4 to check whether I could need another 1.4 (even if at 30mm and object separation). Does the sigma 30mm/1,4 behaves as the 50mm/1,4 at maximum aperture? I mean, do I get similar results with both open till 1.4? Since my 50mm isn't much sharp at 1.4 in low light pics... if I choose the sigma I wanna be sure, at least, to have better results at that aperture.
Thanks as usual
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QuoteOriginally posted by Docrwm Quote
None of the above.

Pentax DA35/2.4 - its autofocus, wide enough, and is a gem of a lens. If you specifically want Manual Focus and an f of 1.4 then the Samyang is well regarded.
Well, the FA 35/2 is available for $399 shipped at present. That said, for macro and closeup work as well as general use, the DA 35mm Ltd macro is my work horse. Last time I saw it, it was hanging out on my new K-01.
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$399 shipped at present
unfortunately it doesn't have that price in Europe (more than 600€=780$)
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QuoteOriginally posted by SigB Quote
unfortunately it doesn't have that price in Europe (more than 600=780$)
I didn't look at your location when I posted that.
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no problem, just to let you know. Anyway, thanks for your post!
So you suggest to head to the 35 macro, instead of the 30/1,4 sigma right?
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no problem, just to let you know. Anyway, thanks for your post!
So you suggest to head to the 35 macro, instead of the 30/1,4 sigma right?
For low light work, the Sigma is great and good performer. But I prefer the DA ltd. It isn't a cheap lens but a good one. The DA 35/2.4 is a good lens and one of the more economical ones. However, if I were to go that route, I would track down the FA 35/2.
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ah, and could you say even that sigma 30mm 1.4 can be sharper than 50mm/1.4 at central focus point? Since that could make some difference to me. If not, I'd go for the 35 macro
Thanks again for helping!
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