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02-23-2008, 08:49 PM   #31
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What were the prices on the following lenses when they were available?

FA* 24/2
FA* 85/1.4
FA* 200/2.8
FA* 300/4.5

02-23-2008, 11:13 PM   #32
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QuoteOriginally posted by tux08902 Quote
What were the prices on the following lenses when they were available?

FA* 24/2
FA* 85/1.4
FA* 200/2.8
FA* 300/4.5

USD450, 800, 1200 & 900, off my head.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tux08902 Quote
What were the prices on the following lenses when they were available?

FA* 24/2
FA* 85/1.4
FA* 200/2.8
FA* 300/4.5
QuoteOriginally posted by wlachan Quote
USD450, 800, 1200 & 900, off my head.
Yes, but the US$ has done a dive since that time against all curriencies, including the Yen.

You would probably have to pay at least 25% more if they were still available today, probably more.
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The FA* won't come down in price. The FA* 24 one from a couple days ago ended at ~$540. If anything, especially if the K20D is as good as it is on the paper, then you might see more spike in the price of these lenses.

By the way, the FA* 85 at Matsuyastore is "only" $1400. I have a friend in Tokyo and he told me that's pretty much the local price at the moment (some might hover around 1100 but the condition is pretty much equivalent KEH's ugl rating) . The FA* 24 is quite rare over there, and $600 is pretty much the minimum. Many film Pentax users are catching up with the price craze, so good deal on these lenses might come few times a year.

So if you buy the DA 21 right now, it would be kinda a waste to get the FA* 24. And if it's optical quality that you're after, you might also want to consider other brands (like the Voigtlander), that's if you want to do manual focusing.
Yeah, I was the lucky (was it lucky at all?) guy to win that lens on ebay. It'd be here by tomorrow the latest (I hope so. The lens has stayed in our PO for 2 days already!). I also have the DA21 which I like. But don't think I'd keep both. Most likely I'd keep the FA*24.

Almost sold my FA*85/1.4, but my wife asked me to keep it for good. I think I'm gonna keep it as long as I'm with Pentax.

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So i just got the FA* 24 from a local seller for a reasonable price (the same price the guy paid for it). The lens is like new so I'm very happy. After a few test shots, I'm in love with this lens. The CA control of this lens is much better compared to my 31 limited. The bokeh is just buttery smooth. The corner sharpness, for my quick run, is not as abysmal as the photozone data. Thus, I think such inherent weakness would be best used in shot where the corner details are out of focus. One of the other things I've noticed is the "droplet" distortion, but I guess that's part of all wide angle lenses. Barrel distortion is noticeable.



Here is a couple of my test shots, all taken at f/2

The lovely bokeh:


A close-up shot of my AC units:


A distance shot of the neighbor:

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QuoteOriginally posted by aegisphan Quote
So i just got the FA* 24 from a local seller for a reasonable price (the same price the guy paid for it). The lens is like new so I'm very happy. After a few test shots, I'm in love with this lens. The CA control of this lens is much better compared to my 31 limited.
Congrats on your purchase. Not trying to be rude but you must have the only FA*24/2 in existence that has better CA than the 31LTD. Given my experience with several copies of both lenses I find your claim about CA to be most extraordinary. Care to post some 1:1 comparative edge crops?
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I'll post comparative edge and CA crops when I have time. My 31tld does indeed have more CA problem. I might be because I have a "lemon" copy in CA department. But we'll see for further testing. My 24's serial is 3817547. I don't know if this is the later production or not, but it might give some clues compared to the several FA* 24s you've tried.
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QuoteOriginally posted by aegisphan Quote
I'll post comparative edge and CA crops when I have time. My 31tld does indeed have more CA problem. I might be because I have a "lemon" copy in CA department. But we'll see for further testing. My 24's serial is 3817547. I don't know if this is the later production or not, but it might give some clues compared to the several FA* 24s you've tried.
I've owned both early and late FA*24/2 (I can still borrow one too even though I no longer own one) and I also compared results with another owner of two samples in a repeatable experiment and they were the same as both of mine. I just wonder if we are talking about the same thing, that's why I'm keen to see some sample pics.

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I'm kind of shocked too. My experiences with FA*24 and 31 Ltd. would suggest that the two shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. The FA*24 that I had was a bad copy or something. Corner sharpness was very weak at both extremes of the aperture scale, bokeh above f4 was "busy" if that's a way to describe the double imaging effect. I prefered a plain ol' FA20/2.8 and eventually an FA20-35 both over my copy of the FA*24, so I sold it for about 1/3 of the going rate nowadays...
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I only mention about the CA issue, not resolution-wise (though i like the look of my FA* 24 until further testing).

Here is a pair of CA comparative test shots (100% center crop)

31/2:



24/2:



My 31 clearly has more CA issue.
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QuoteOriginally posted by aegisphan Quote
I only mention about the CA issue, not resolution-wise (though i like the look of my FA* 24 until further testing).

Here is a pair of CA comparative test shots (100% center crop)

My 31 clearly has more CA issue.
Thanks for taking the time to post that comparison. I'm not quite sure what we are seeing there, if looks like axial CA and PF, it's pretty much impossible to determine lateral CA from a centre crop and that's mainly what I was referring to (and most others when they mention CA IMO). A corner crop is best to compare lateral CA. My experience with the FA*24/2 pretty much accords with the following :

Pentax SMC-FA* 24mm f/2 AL [IF] Review / Lab Test Report
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QuoteOriginally posted by distudio Quote
Thanks for taking the time to post that comparison. I'm not quite sure what we are seeing there, if looks like axial CA and PF, it's pretty much impossible to determine lateral CA from a centre crop and that's mainly what I was referring to (and most others when they mention CA IMO). A corner crop is best to compare lateral CA. My experience with the FA*24/2 pretty much accords with the following :

Pentax SMC-FA* 24mm f/2 AL [IF] Review / Lab Test Report
. I guess we're after all not referring to the same thing. I tend to oversimplify myself when I refer to CA. To me, color fringing is the term i would use for lateral CA.

Anyway, I did a quick comparative test. My 31LTD is better at lateral CA control. So, after all, my copy isn't that special .

Here is the 100% corner crop.

24/2



31/2


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