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12-04-2012, 05:54 PM   #16
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Well then ... I have to let it go I guess ... thanks guys!

Oh, one last question ... Chinon 45mm f 2.8 ... same story?

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My experience is that it performs really well. maybe I got a particularly good one
Looks brilliant too

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Heres a bunch of 40mm on Different cameras
The pictures of the CANONETTE are the full range of aperture settings taken with KX
there are even some shots taken with it on the Q (ones that are closups of my KX are taken with Q)

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QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
At $680+ ... hell no. Might be a nice lens, but for that price I can get Pentax glass for cheaper and just as good (alas no aperture ring
More like USD 525 if you shop around. FF compatible!

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40mm - makes for an easy to carry light lens when traveling:

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Thanks Arjay Bee...
makes all the talk superfluous

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Transit, thanks for the picture. Yes, it does look very good (that's the thing that attracted me at the beginning), but the price that is going and for the poor reviews that I am reading, I don't think will be the smartest buy right now.

Silver-Surfer, holly cow . Thanks a lot for the pictures (takes forever to load ).
They look good, no question about it!

lytrytyr, I can't find those lenses for less than that for now. Maybe no good deals for Canada ...

Arjay Bee ... nice picture .

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Anyway, thanks all for helping me take a decision. In the end I've decided to go with something similar but less expensive.
I got these two (NOT MY PICTURES) for about $200 (pretty much the price of one Pentax pancake in very good condition) with shipping to Canada.

Auto Chinon 45mm f2.8 pancake lens

Not much info about these lens out there, but based on the little info I got, they are at least the same quality as the Pentax one (same size too ... physically speaking).

Auto Chinon 50mm f1.4

This seems to be an excellent lens so I am excited about them

Just in case images are not showing, here are the links:
http://creativelines.ca/xx-sharingPhotos/autoChinon45mm.png
http://creativelines.ca/xx-sharingPhotos/autoChinon50mm.png


How good they are ... I don't know. But they do seem to be in prime shape.
Will follow with a post once I get them.

Thanks again!

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Here is the "fence test" shot of the SMC Pentax-M 1:2.8 40 mm I took this morning at f/8 125th
https://www.box.com/s/egxa5ymdus7pklr857ro
I took similar one on the XR-2 with HP5, it will have to wait till I develop it

Compared to a sharp lens in my K collection, the XR Rikenon 1:1.4 50mm, taken in summer in different light
https://www.box.com/s/iada51c2ublkjgznvkcs

Compare the finials across the frames, however I still like to use the old 40mm, I might take it on next trip with the MX and the 1:3.5 28mm

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QuoteOriginally posted by wombat2go Quote
Here is the "fence test" shot of the SMC Pentax-M 1:2.8 40 mm I took this morning at f/8 125th
https://www.box.com/s/egxa5ymdus7pklr857ro
I took similar one on the XR-2 with HP5, it will have to wait till I develop it

Compared to a sharp lens in my K collection, the XR Rikenon 1:1.4 50mm, taken in summer in different light
https://www.box.com/s/iada51c2ublkjgznvkcs

Compare the finials across the frames, however I still like to use the old 40mm, I might take it on next trip with the MX and the 1:3.5 28mm
Wow even at f8 it can reach the 50mm quality.
Was the XR lens stoped to f8 as well or wide open?

Thanks for your pics again!
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QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
Thanks for the pictures guys!
It does look like images are not the best thing out there I guess ...

Adam, I have the 40mm XS and I was hopping that they are close enough ... but I guess is not the case .
Really like the idea of aperture control on the lens (able to use it on old manual film cameras).

msatlas, I'm kind of a manual focus guy .

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What about its "cousins"!?
Like the CHINON 45mm lens?
Save up and get the FA43, it’s perfect on a MF film camera. I was also looking at the M40 and ended up finding a used FA43 at a local camera store. The focus ring on the FA43 is a bit small, but not terrible.

I only shoot film and the FA43 is a perfect one lens “walk about” and the optics are light years ahead of the M40.

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Save up and get the FA43, it’s perfect on a MF film camera. I was also looking at the M40 and ended up finding a used FA43 at a local camera store. The focus ring on the FA43 is a bit small, but not terrible.

I only shoot film and the FA43 is a perfect one lens “walk about” and the optics are light years ahead of the M40.

Phil.
I like the FA 43. I had my eyes on it for a while but at $600+, for me, is a little rich for now .
And prices in Canada for a used one are pretty much the same.

I will eventually get it ... sometime ... in the future ... but for now is mostly a dream.

In the mean time, I'll try and make due with that Chinon 45mm lens and hope is decent enough ... for now.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
Is this better than the Pentax one? Or image quality is same as Pentax (same thing, different name)!?
Honestly I don't know too much about it beyond the fact that it exists. Here's the best information I could find:

Flickr: Discussing Vivitar 40/2.5 pancake in EOS Cameras and Manual Lenses
Cosinon f2.5 40mm photo - Steve Flynn photos at pbase.com
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QuoteOriginally posted by msatlas Quote
Honestly I don't know too much about it beyond the fact that it exists. Here's the best information I could find:

Flickr: Discussing Vivitar 40/2.5 pancake in EOS Cameras and Manual Lenses
Cosinon f2.5 40mm photo - Steve Flynn photos at pbase.com
Thanks for sharing this!
I guess they are in the same boat as the Chinon pancake lens. Very little info about them ...
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... it was my first Pentax Lens on my K1000 (film) Later I bought the FA 43 Ltd.
But the M 40/2.8 isn't as bad as many people say. Mine is very good. I never sold it.

Here you can see the M40 vs. the DA40 ... no big difference at all!
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2005/01/17/753.html


These shots made with the M 40 and K200
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Not bad pid ... good pictures.
Thanks!

This gets me even more confused and happy in a way ... there is still hope
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