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12-14-2012, 11:12 AM   #1
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Takumar-F Zoom? Hoya HMC 35 f/2.8?

I just bought a full film kit from someone, and one of the lenses was a Takumar-F Zoom 70-210 1:4-5.6. I imagine it is the same exact one as the regular Pentax, but it says Pentax no where at all on it. So, is it the same? I'm also curious about the Hoya 35mm manual lens I got with it. Any good?

I got a kit with an SF1, Sunpak 344D flash, SMC Pentax F 28-80 f/3.5-4.5, Hoya HMC Wide-Auto 35 f/2.8 PK mount, and SMC Pentax F 50 f/1.7 in a Pelican case. All lenses have filters on them too.

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The Takumar-F may or may not be the same as the Pentax and it is not SMC coated.

Takumar-F 70-210mm F4-5.6 Reviews - Non-SMC Pentax Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

The Pentax has 13 elements in 9 groups and the Takumar is supposed to have 10 in 8.

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Thanks. I didn't see it right off, which is why I asked. Should be a fun one to mess with! Now I'm wondering about that Hoya I got with the set.
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The F 50mm f/1.7 is a real prize, they often go for more than the FA 50mm f/1.4

The 70-210 is a close sibling of the SMC F 70-210 here is the review: Takumar-F 70-210mm F4-5.6 Reviews - Non-SMC Pentax Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database They look very close but the review mentions a different number of elements and groups but I'm not sure that is correct. They one difference for sure would be the lack of SMC coating on the Takumar version. Everything else, including the weight and close focusing distance are the same so having different number of elements seems unlikely. I've never used the Takumar version but the SMC F version is one of my favorite lenses. Extremely fast focusing, nice and sharp and contrasty.

The 28-80 is also a decent lens but the focal range is usually covered by other lenses so even though I have one in the collection I rarely use it. I have an FA 28-70 f/4 that I think is superior to the F version and that usually gets the nod when I need that range.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
The F 50mm f/1.7 is a real prize, they often go for more than the FA 50mm f/1.4

The 70-210 is a close sibling of the SMC F 70-210 here is the review: Takumar-F 70-210mm F4-5.6 Reviews - Non-SMC Pentax Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database They look very close but the review mentions a different number of elements and groups but I'm not sure that is correct. They one difference for sure would be the lack of SMC coating on the Takumar version. Everything else, including the weight and close focusing distance are the same so having different number of elements seems unlikely.
Bojidar's K-mount site suggests they are different, in spite of the similarities:
F 70-210/4-5.6 ED (13 elements in 9 groups) and Takumar-F 70-200/4-5.6 (11 elements in 8 groups).
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QuoteOriginally posted by RobA_Oz Quote
Bojidar's K-mount site suggests they are different, in spite of the similarities:
F 70-210/4-5.6 ED (13 elements in 9 groups) and Takumar-F 70-200/4-5.6 (11 elements in 8 groups).
That is the Takumar 70-200. VoR has the 70-210.
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Takumar F's are to SMC Pentax-F lenses as DA L's are to DA lenses nowadays. Basically it was a budget version of the 70-210mm with simpler optics and no SMC coating, so you'll get a bit more flare:
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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
That is the Takumar 70-200. VoR has the 70-210.
Supposedly, the Takumar-F 70-200 and 70-210, and Pentax-F 70-200, are all the same. The F 70-210 is unique.

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QuoteOriginally posted by msatlas Quote
Supposedly, the Takumar-F 70-200 and 70-210, and Pentax-F 70-200, are all the same. The F 70-210 is unique.
They look the same but they aren't. I had a couple of Takumar-F 70-200s, and they are different than the SMC Pentax-F 70-210. The Pentax at 70mm and minimum focus distance is much shorter than the Takumar. There are some other differences in construction.
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All 4 lenses work other than one problem on the Hoya. The aperture is stuck all the way open. The Takumar seems pretty sharp, at least what I played with it here in my apartment on my K5. The 2 Pentaxes are also pretty sharp too. I have not really done much with the Hoya yet other than checked how loooong it's focus throw is. So, is the Hoya worth fixing? I could not find any reference to it at all.
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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
That is the Takumar 70-200. VoR has the 70-210.
My error with the link. It should have been this one Takumar-F 70-210/4-5.6 (10 elements in 8 groups).
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QuoteOriginally posted by Just1MoreDave Quote
They look the same but they aren't. I had a couple of Takumar-F 70-200s, and they are different than the SMC Pentax-F 70-210. The Pentax at 70mm and minimum focus distance is much shorter than the Takumar. There are some other differences in construction.
Right, that's what I was saying. The F 70-210 is unique, and the other three (Tak-F 70-200 & 70-210, F 70-200) are the same.
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The Takumar seems to work fine and is surprisingly sharp on my K5.
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Is this the same Hoya you're trying to sell at the moment?
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It is, but the aperture works great now. I meant to post pictures of that, and I will today.
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