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12-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #1
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Sigma OS 70-200 F2.8 - good buy or a new model coming?

Hi folks,

So I was taking or trying to take good sports photos with my F4.5 300 and it just wasn't doing the trick. I can never seem to get a good photo...or just a few.

Then I was reading the reviews and threads about the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 and I see it's on sale most places.

Does anyone know if this means a new version is coming out or just a sale because of the holiday season?

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12-18-2012, 04:16 PM   #2
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QuoteOriginally posted by Keebler Quote
Hi folks,

So I was taking or trying to take good sports photos with my F4.5 300 and it just wasn't doing the trick. I can never seem to get a good photo...or just a few.

Then I was reading the reviews and threads about the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 and I see it's on sale most places.

Does anyone know if this means a new version is coming out or just a sale because of the holiday season?

Cheers,
Keebler
It's just a special holiday deal. The lens is fairly recent, though I would expect to see a new version in 1-2 years as Sigma starts unveiling their new Art, Contemporary and Sports lens lineups.

I reviewed the lens last year and apart from the fact that the focusing ring rotates the wrong way, it really is a great lens, both in terms of IQ and autofocus.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
It's just a special holiday deal. The lens is fairly recent, though I would expect to see a new version in 1-2 years as Sigma starts unveiling their new Art, Contemporary and Sports lens lineups.

I reviewed the lens last year and apart from the fact that the focusing ring rotates the wrong way, it really is a great lens, both in terms of IQ and autofocus.
Thanks Adam. I've got a call into the local shop.
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Thanks Adam. I've got a call into the local shop.
I thought about buying one but I am not what the point of having a lens with OS is when you have SR built into the body? I opted for the Tamron 70-200 2.8, especially with the price differential. I had one of the older HSM models and it was a fantastic performer on my D200 and D300.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Keebler Quote
So I was taking or trying to take good sports photos with my F4.5 300 and it just wasn't doing the trick. I can never seem to get a good photo...or just a few.
I presume you mean the F* or FA*300? What sport? What camera body? I get good results on K-5 or K-5 IIs, and others use the DA*300 with good results.
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QuoteOriginally posted by treebeard Quote
I thought about buying one but I am not what the point of having a lens with OS is when you have SR built into the body? I opted for the Tamron 70-200 2.8, especially with the price differential. I had one of the older HSM models and it was a fantastic performer on my D200 and D300.
At >300mm, the 50-500mm's OS is a bit more effective than SR. In general, though, it's redundant, which is why future Pentax versions of Sigma lenses won't have OS.

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QuoteOriginally posted by treebeard Quote
I thought about buying one but I am not what the point of having a lens with OS is when you have SR built into the body? I opted for the Tamron 70-200 2.8, especially with the price differential. I had one of the older HSM models and it was a fantastic performer on my D200 and D300.
treabeard ,I agree about paying for OS when you dont need it . With the price difference of about $450 it seems to be a waste . I am considering the Tamron 70-200 2.8 . What is your opinion of the lens ?

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My first copy was sharp at 2.8 and I had no focus issues whatsoever. It was actually professionally cleaned after being submerged in water and after 2 years it still performed as it should. I was going to use it for sports but that never materialized. The copy I just bought from this forum looks to be another sharp one. I will let you know. I just can't see spending money on an OS lens when Pentax has SR and it works wonderfully! I had no problems with my K-5 and the Tamron tracking sandpipers and various other fast moving birds on the beach. I also used it to shoot Ospreys and Skippers and it performed flawlessly.
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QuoteOriginally posted by treebeard Quote
I thought about buying one but I am not what the point of having a lens with OS is when you have SR built into the body? I opted for the Tamron 70-200 2.8, especially with the price differential. I had one of the older HSM models and it was a fantastic performer on my D200 and D300.
Thanks Treebeard. I was thinking the same thing, but there are some other differences which could make up the difference.

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One for me would be the faster autofocus as I'll be using this for my kids sports' (cross country, futsal, soccer).

D Sims, it's the regular Pentax 55-300 F4-5.6. I could very well not having the settings right, but I find by the time I can get it focused, I either miss a shot or it's not focused properly. This is for Futsal (indoor soccer in a gym - very fast game; indoor soccer in a dome, outdoor soccer and cross country).

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I saw that too, but right now the Sigma's price tag is out of my price range. I will wait until next Spring to see the prices of used ones.
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You could also look at the Tamron 70-200/2.8. It doesn't have HSM like the Sigma, but the camera should be able to autofocus more reliably than you're getting with the 55-300, because of the brighter f/2.8 aperture. Your 55-300 has a max aperture of f/5.8 at 300mm so with the 70-200/2.8 you've got over 2 stops more light hitting the AF sensor.
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Thanks Msatlas. That's my thought - either lens will give me a better f stop to work with.
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It's been over 2 years since I sold the DA55-300, so it's hard to make a good comparison to what I currently have. But the lenses I mentioned have all worked well for cross country. Based on other's reports the Sigma should work well for that purpose too.

I did use the DA55-300 for an outdoor soccer game a few years ago and got some good shots, but I don't think it was ideal. It's hard to imagine using it for indoor soccer.

You probably already know this, but while the DA*300/4 is a good option, you don't want to get the DA*200/2.8. I had one for less than 2 weeks. It was quite a nice lens - except for shooting sports (AF was too slow). I like the IQ better than what I've seen from the Sigma 70-200 OS, but that hardly matters when it can't hit the focus!


In cross country I can get good shots with any of the 3 primes I mentioned between 85 and 300mm. That's because the runners help vary the framing for you as they run toward you! I've noticed that a lens with good IQ will pay of in sports photos in much the same way it does for portrait shooting.


The FA135 focuses quite quickly - I'd say get either that (FA or F version) or the Sigma. Otherwise pick up a refurb 7D from the Canon site, plus a copy of their (recently lowered in price) 135/2 lens. You can get good prices on the Canon stuff, the only problem being that most of it will probably be replaced with (more expensive) new versions next year.

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12-22-2012, 11:46 AM   #14
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Just wanted to say thanks for the feedback folks. I ended up getting the Sigma 70-200. Incredible how much faster it focuses than the 50-300 (which I guess shouldn't be surprising), but wow.

Can't wait to take out for some shots.
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Post some samples and have fund with the lens. I got my Tamron 70-200 2.8 today as well.
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