Notice: Photozone has a review of the DA* 200 2.8 up.

c.r.brown · 02-16-2008, 08:11 PM

Link

From what I can tell its going to be an excellent lens if you're like Prince and Oprah and love the color purple. Something says 'bad sample' to me. Does not look good.

tux08902 · 02-16-2008, 08:26 PM

I'm definitely getting this lens, but I'll wait to make a final judgment.

fwbigd · 02-16-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by c.r.brown

Link

From what I can tell its going to be an excellent lens if you're like Prince and Oprah and love the color purple. Something says 'bad sample' to me. Does not look good.

That shot would put any lens to the test and most would come up with the same purple results because of the drastic contrast and distance from which it was shot.

Note: The important thing about the lens is it will cover Full Frame.

VR
Darryl

rvannatta · 02-16-2008, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by fwbigd

That shot would put any lens to the test and most would come up with the same purple results because of the drastic contrast and distance from which it was shot.

Note: The important thing about the lens is it will cover Full Frame.

VR
Darryl

well if you look at the specs of it.---it's identical to the FA* 200 except for the
addidtion of the SDM motor. At least that is what it looks like to me.

tux08902 · 02-16-2008, 09:04 PM

Now that I think about it, Photozone was a little too drastic with their review. Too many lenses would have purple fringing with that kind of scene. It's just too much to base the entire review on.

c.r.brown · 02-16-2008, 09:51 PM

Look at the samples, they are redolent with purple fringing.

tux08902 · 02-16-2008, 10:04 PM

For the most part, the samples are fine. I did see a a bit on one or two spots of reflection in the ice samples, but other than that, it didn't seem too prevalent with the rest of the photo. I'll wait to make some judgment.

**Canada_Rockies** · 02-16-2008, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by c.r.brown

Link

From what I can tell its going to be an excellent lens if you're like Prince and Oprah and love the color purple. Something says 'bad sample' to me. Does not look good.

Chasseurs d'Images tested the lens and gave it 5 stars out of 5. In translation by me:

"Chromatic aberrations are present, but weak, never more than 0.12 mm at the edges of a 30 by 45 cm print."

They don't seem to have seen the troubles Photozone did.

and · 02-16-2008, 11:18 PM

Interesting that photozone got a review of this lens before I heard any users actually getting it.

roentarre · 02-16-2008, 11:35 PM

Purple CA are commonly place in the sample images. Nevertheless, the lens is still a performer.

Thanks for posting this.

p.s. I wonder whether Hoya decides to send a copy of lens to Klaus for some good press. More reviews the better. He is more impartial with analysis of lenses with no financial incentives in mind.

philmorley · 02-17-2008, 01:39 AM

Ouch!! I hope it's a bad copy

All that pf, thats worse than the fisheye (which I love but the ca/pf is annoying). For sharpness nice edge to edge but being a prime I thought it would better than fa 80-200 / sigma 70-200 / nikon 70-200.

blende8 · 02-17-2008, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by fwbigd

That shot would put any lens to the test and most would come up with the same purple results because of the drastic contrast and distance from which it was shot.

I agree.
PF like that is pretty much normal for all lenses.
PF is also very sensitive to exact focussing, if you turn the focus ring 1 mm to the side, it will change already.

PS: One should not take Klaus too seriously.
He is a layman, who has bought a test program.
I only trust my own tests.

Here are some images I did yesterday:
DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Kleiner Vergleich DA200 versus A200

thibs · 02-17-2008, 05:50 AM

I see nowhere clearly if those DA* 200 and 300mm do sport traditional screwdriver AF on top of the SDM.

Is anybody able to confirm one way or the other? Thanks !

Tbear · 02-17-2008, 06:18 AM

Other posts have answered this question. There is no aperture ring on the DA * 200mm. Now I understand why.

blende8 · 02-17-2008, 06:22 AM

Just did a quick test to refute Klaus claim of LCA:

Please keep in mind that the term CA is defined only within the DoF.
Outside the DoF one should not speak of CAs.

No LCA within the DoF:

02-16-2008, 08:11 PM	#1
c.r.brown Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 214	*Notice: Photozone has a review of the DA 200 2.8 up.** Link From what I can tell its going to be an excellent lens if you're like Prince and Oprah and love the color purple. Something says 'bad sample' to me. Does not look good.

02-17-2008, 06:18 AM	#14
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	*Why not call it the D FA 200mm?** Other posts have answered this question. There is no aperture ring on the DA * 200mm. Now I understand why. Last edited by Tbear; 02-17-2008 at 07:44 AM.

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02-16-2008, 08:26 PM	#2
tux08902 Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Brunswick, NJ Posts: 473	I'm definitely getting this lens, but I'll wait to make a final judgment.

02-16-2008, 08:37 PM	#3
fwbigd Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 339	Originally posted by c.r.brown Link From what I can tell its going to be an excellent lens if you're like Prince and Oprah and love the color purple. Something says 'bad sample' to me. Does not look good. That shot would put any lens to the test and most would come up with the same purple results because of the drastic contrast and distance from which it was shot. Note: The important thing about the lens is it will cover Full Frame. VR Darryl

02-16-2008, 09:01 PM	#4
rvannatta Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Apiary, Oregon Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,181	Originally posted by fwbigd That shot would put any lens to the test and most would come up with the same purple results because of the drastic contrast and distance from which it was shot. Note: The important thing about the lens is it will cover Full Frame. VR Darryl well if you look at the specs of it.---it's identical to the FA* 200 except for the addidtion of the SDM motor. At least that is what it looks like to me.

02-16-2008, 09:04 PM	#5
tux08902 Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Brunswick, NJ Posts: 473	Now that I think about it, Photozone was a little too drastic with their review. Too many lenses would have purple fringing with that kind of scene. It's just too much to base the entire review on.

02-16-2008, 09:51 PM	#6
c.r.brown Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 214 Original Poster	Look at the samples, they are redolent with purple fringing.

02-16-2008, 10:04 PM	#7
tux08902 Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Brunswick, NJ Posts: 473	For the most part, the samples are fine. I did see a a bit on one or two spots of reflection in the ice samples, but other than that, it didn't seem too prevalent with the rest of the photo. I'll wait to make some judgment.

02-16-2008, 11:10 PM	#8
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by c.r.brown Link From what I can tell its going to be an excellent lens if you're like Prince and Oprah and love the color purple. Something says 'bad sample' to me. Does not look good. Chasseurs d'Images tested the lens and gave it 5 stars out of 5. In translation by me: "Chromatic aberrations are present, but weak, never more than 0.12 mm at the edges of a 30 by 45 cm print." They don't seem to have seen the troubles Photozone did.

02-16-2008, 11:18 PM	#9
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Interesting that photozone got a review of this lens before I heard any users actually getting it.

02-16-2008, 11:35 PM	#10
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	Purple CA are commonly place in the sample images. Nevertheless, the lens is still a performer. Thanks for posting this. p.s. I wonder whether Hoya decides to send a copy of lens to Klaus for some good press. More reviews the better. He is more impartial with analysis of lenses with no financial incentives in mind.

02-17-2008, 01:39 AM	#11
philmorley Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: in a house in Armidale, Australia Posts: 472	Ouch!! I hope it's a bad copy All that pf, thats worse than the fisheye (which I love but the ca/pf is annoying). For sharpness nice edge to edge but being a prime I thought it would better than fa 80-200 / sigma 70-200 / nikon 70-200.

02-17-2008, 02:50 AM	#12
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by fwbigd That shot would put any lens to the test and most would come up with the same purple results because of the drastic contrast and distance from which it was shot. I agree. PF like that is pretty much normal for all lenses. PF is also very sensitive to exact focussing, if you turn the focus ring 1 mm to the side, it will change already. PS: One should not take Klaus too seriously. He is a layman, who has bought a test program. I only trust my own tests. Here are some images I did yesterday: DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Kleiner Vergleich DA200 versus A200

02-17-2008, 05:50 AM	#13
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	I see nowhere clearly if those DA* 200 and 300mm do sport traditional screwdriver AF on top of the SDM. Is anybody able to confirm one way or the other? Thanks !

02-17-2008, 06:22 AM	#15
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Just did a quick test to refute Klaus claim of LCA: Please keep in mind that the term CA is defined only within the DoF. Outside the DoF one should not speak of CAs. No LCA within the DoF: