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12-27-2012, 09:02 PM   #16
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I wasn't aware the 17-70 had an ass gasket. with that I may go with the 17-70... need to read some more threads on the 18-135 and 17-70

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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
That's why I said 'ish'. You can interpret the bar on the road map however you want as it is not definitive. But clearly it will be wider than 20mm and longer than 80mm. Anything else is pure guesswork.
No worries. I had just seen 16mm-80/85mm referenced so often that I thought it was stated somewhere online, and I simply hadn't seen it.

16-85 would be a pretty sweet range. It probably won't be constant aperture though, or if it is, it won't be faster than f4 (I am of course hoping that I'm wrong and Pentax somehow engineers that lens into f2.8 speed!). Just my guess.
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16-85 would be a pretty sweet range. It probably won't be constant aperture though, or if it is, it won't be faster than f4 (I am of course hoping that I'm wrong and Pentax somehow engineers that lens into f2.8 speed!). Just my guess.
Agree, very nice and most likely f/4. I would love f/2.8 but then it would weigh so much we would need a sherpa. I think the 16-85 numbers are just because Nikon makes one in that range so it is a familiar number. But with Pentax, who knows? 19-84? 14-86? And the Nikon is f/3.5 - 5.6 if I remember right, although there are rumors of a 16-85 f/4 coming out 'real soon now'.
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If you need just 'one' lens, then 16-50 will cover the wide to medium range. Wait for a sale and grab it at a reasonable price of US750 new if you can. I refuse to pay US1500 for this lens.
If you need a tele, 55-300 is a great buy.
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I think the new 16-85 could be at least a f2.8-f4 to make sense.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Saxplayer1004 Quote
I wasn't aware the 17-70 had an ass gasket. with that I may go with the 17-70... need to read some more threads on the 18-135 and 17-70
It does, however the lens itself is still vulnerable to the water. But the gasket at the mount will prevent water getting to the camera.
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I think I may go with the 17-70 and keep the 80-200 in the backpack. Swapping between them shouldn't be an issue. Need to get a case for the Tokina, but other than that it should be fine. Will hold out for the new DA*
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17-70 all the way, great range and very very sharp.

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Now I'm in a real bind. Have an option for a near new K-5 with Sigma 17-50 F2.8 for $900... Debating on going that route
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Now I'm in a real bind. Have an option for a near new K-5 with Sigma 17-50 F2.8 for $900... Debating on going that route
That sounds like a really nice kit for a great price. If it is a local sale, I would check for front/back focus issues if you can as I bought that Sigma lens new and had to send it back because of serious back focus. Other than that, your deal would be hard to beat.
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Buy the k-5 and sigma, sell the sigma, then buy the 17-70. That would be what i would do
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Ended up with a K5 body for $500 and will be hunting the used section for either another 16-50, 17-70, 18-135, or even a cheap 18-55WR so I have something wider than 50mm. Glass hunt continues
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I once again heartily recommend the 17-70 or 16-50 if you can afford it, but the 17-70 is mighty sharp
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The 17-70 f/4 with a truly WR build, not just w/ a mount gasket, would be my ideal lens. Ideal. ..wishful thinking...
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