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01-03-2013, 03:24 PM   #1
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Plastic Fantastic VS 35mm 2.8 Ltd.

I know this matter has been discussed a great deal in the past, but I believe that there has been too
much hyperbole regarding the 35mm 2.4. I did get this lens and I will not deny that it beats the output
of the kit lens by a wide margin. Still, this is by no means an extraordinary lens. I will be giving away
the 35mm 2.4 and I am very close to procuring the 35mm 2.8 macro Ltd. Are there those here who
have owned both? If you could keep only one of them, which one would you keep? Your incentive
for keeping one over the other should not be the market value but the actual p e r f o r m a n c e of
the lens.

So this is the equation within the question:
Provided the two lenses cost exactly the same and both were made of metal, which one would you
view as the better lens in terms of image quality?

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QuoteOriginally posted by DominicVII Quote
Provided the two lenses cost exactly the same and both were made of metal, which one would you
view as the better lens in terms of image quality?
if you ask this, you ask in fact which is the FA35/2 or the DA35/2.8 the best lens opticaly ?

Some will, and i answer you it's forgetting all other aspect of both lens like, the DA35/2.4 is FF, the DA35/2.8 macro is not, the DA35/2.4 is way cheaper than the 35 macro, and so on.

Both are very good opticaly, and the 35/2.4 is for me quite stellar for a 100$ lens, and is FF.

the 35/2.8 macro is an excellent all around lens due to its macro capabilities.

both have different purpose, but both are very good. An i don't think you'll see much difference in optical result, but all the other aspect should let you be able to answer the question : which of those 2 lens will have the best purpose for me ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by aurele Quote
if you ask this, you ask in fact which is the FA35/2 or the DA35/2.8 the best lens opticaly ?

Some will, and i answer you it's forgetting all other aspect of both lens like, the DA35/2.4 is FF, the DA35/2.8 macro is not, the DA35/2.4 is way cheaper than the 35 macro, and so on.

Both are very good opticaly, and the 35/2.4 is for me quite stellar for a 100$ lens, and is FF.

the 35/2.8 macro is an excellent all around lens due to its macro capabilities.

both have different purpose, but both are very good. An i don't think you'll see much difference in optical result, but all the other aspect should let you be able to answer the question : which of those 2 lens will have the best purpose for me ?
Thank you for your input. Having seen several galleries of photos taken with the 35mm macro 2.8, I must say
that I am stunned by the realism. As far as I can judge, the difference in optical results is very significant indeed.

The only thing that worries me about the 35mm macro 2.8 is the absence of focus limiter.

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You can't really go wrong looking at this thread https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/118765-da-35mm...ny-photos.html

For nature I'd go for the 35 macro. For people I'd prefer the faster (in both senses) and cheaper lens.

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QuoteOriginally posted by DominicVII Quote
The only thing that worries me about the 35mm macro 2.8 is the absence of focus limiter.
The 35/2.4 wasn't available when I sought a standard prime for my K-x,
so the choice was 35 Macro versus FA 35/2 or FA 31 Ltd.
I went with the Macro, and after 3 years of use, I'm very happy with it.

Since it has Quick-Shift, you can pre-focus manually to within the ball park.
If you do that, the AF is very quick.
So I haven't found the absence of a focus limiter to be a problem.
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The 35/2.4 wasn't available when I sought a standard prime for my K-x,
so the choice was 35 Macro versus FA 35/2 or FA 31 Ltd.
I went with the Macro, and after 3 years of use, I'm very happy with it.

Since it has Quick-Shift, you can pre-focus manually to within the ball park.
If you do that, the AF is very quick.
So I haven't found the absence of a focus limiter to be a problem.
is this lens all metal or does it have any visible plastic elements?
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QuoteOriginally posted by DominicVII Quote
is this lens all metal or does it have any visible plastic elements?
Aluminum, glass, and felt.

Not sure about the ribs on the finger grips of the focus and mount rings.
They may be done in aluminum, but don't feel cold to the touch.

It comes in a vinyl pouch.

I do use a plastic Pentax 49mm lens cap on it, however,
since that works better than the original aluminum and felt cap.
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Aluminum, glass, and felt.

Not sure about the ribs on the finger grips of the focus and mount rings.
They may be done in aluminum, but don't feel cold to the touch.

It comes in a vinyl pouch.

I do use a plastic Pentax 49mm lens cap on it, however,
since that works better than the original aluminum and felt cap.
Thanks for your input.

I have been shooting a great deal with my Tamron 90mm macro lately. The 35mm macro would be the
perfect addition. The latter was being sold for 280 EUR in May, whereas now the price has risen to
420 EUR

And I also think that the 35mm 2.4 is highly over-priced: 175-200 EUR. The Nikon and Sony 35mm 1.8
are being sold for much less.

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QuoteOriginally posted by DominicVII Quote
And I also think that the 35mm 2.4 is highly over-priced: 175-200 EUR. The Nikon and Sony 35mm 1.8
are being sold for much less.
you can find it second hand for 100€ !
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Between these two, I would probably prefer the DA 35 limited. I like the macro abilities more than the extra half stop would benefit me. To me, the DA 35 limited has better micro contrast as well. Not that the DA 35 f2.4 is bad, it's photos just don't seem to have the same pop that I see with the 35 limited.
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you can find it second hand for 100€ !
Where? Even the second hands are being sold for 150. I have been watching the prices for more than a year now. The funniest part of all is to see people pay 50-70 EUR for the kit lenses on the eBay auctions.

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Where? Even the second hands are being sold for 150. I have been watching the prices for more than a year now. The funniest part of all is to see people pay 50-70 EUR for the kit lenses on the eBay auctions.
don't look on ebay, price are so inflated ! check on small ads like what they call Kijiji on the US or "le bon coin" for the french. if you have shop that sell second hand lens often, go there often.

The closest shop that have a lot of 2nd hand lens is near the famous "Champs Elysées", he sold a 35/2,4 for 130€ last month, and sell some kit lens for 60€.
MAC MAHON Photo Video

i got a AF280L for 25€ from them too.
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TBH the 35/2.4 makes sens (for me) only if :
- you are money short (if you can afford the 35 macro, i guess your not)
- you want a 35mm that can be used on film body, but don't want to spend 600€ for the FA35/2.

Appart from those reason, the DA macro is probably a better choice !

If you can't choose now, buy one of them by internet to be able to return it if your not happy (in France, you have 30 days to return it for free, when you buy in a non physical shop -internet or mail.), do it, and you will find out which one you really want !
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QuoteOriginally posted by aurele Quote
don't look on ebay, price are so inflated ! check on small ads like what they call Kijiji on the US or "le bon coin" for the french. if you have shop that sell second hand lens often, go there often.

The closest shop that have a lot of 2nd hand lens is near the famous "Champs Elysées", he sold a 35/2,4 for 130€ last month, and sell some kit lens for 60€.
MAC MAHON Photo Video

i got a AF280L for 25€ from them too.
Ja, you have some good deals in France from time to time. Unfortunately, with the exception of amazon.fr, the shipping charges to Germany are excessive - 20+ EUR.
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