Why are we raving about 43mm and not 28mm?

creampuff · 02-22-2008, 03:09 AM

All I can say is those who have to fork out 550 Euros for a lens ought to take a shopping holiday to the Far East (HK/Singapore/China) where photographic equipment is tax free for tourists. Hongkong has no goods or services tax at all.

roentarre · 02-22-2008, 05:10 AM

That is why there is no need to buy duty free goods in Hong Kong since there is no duties to start with

**rparmar** · 02-22-2008, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by Kguru

Holy maccaroni ... I wouldn't pay that much for even f2.8

First, Pentax doesn't even sell in Ireland, so I have no opportunity to go to a dealer. Second, UK firms that operate "in disguise" do not necessarily offer wham-bam deals. Typical examples would be Pixmania, who have the 21mm at € 555 or Warehouseexpress at £400. That's not including shipping of course.

Originally posted by creampuff

All I can say is those who have to fork out 550 Euros for a lens ought to take a shopping holiday to the Far East (HK/Singapore/China) where photographic equipment is tax free for tourists.

Not only that, I would get to eat great food!

**rparmar** · 02-22-2008, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by tux08902

The DA Limited and FA Limited lenses aim to do different things. Each set of lenses makes certain compromises when compared to the other. Just understand and leave it at that.

But the FA series are going, going, gone... They are not on the roadmap. By the time I can afford them I'll be lucky to find one. Pentax is not pursuing large aperture but instead small size. I think that's a misplaced priority.

Originally posted by tux08902

More importantly, you shouldn't even be discussing things. Just get what suits your style of photography, namely your needs the best.

Well surely that's good advice but if we all took it as gospel these forums would shut down pretty quickly.

I have mentioned more than once that I've a brand "new" lens to try out, so it's not as though all I'm doing is typing. Thing is, Irish weather doesn't give me so many opportunities to go wild with photography. Another reason for a trip to Hong Kong!

But the point of the thread was, first, to see if my theories about 28mm were correct, which people seem to confirm. And second, to wonder as to the rather pointed gap in the Pentax lens lineup. And, as I've been told, the DA 30 will fill that in focal length (if not speed).

Though I wonder why a nice rounded focal length number? Why not continue the esoteric numerology and choose exactly the correct diagonal length... and make a 28mm. After all, we now know it to be the "perfect normal" for the cropped sensor!

creampuff · 02-22-2008, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by rparmar

First, Pentax doesn't even sell in Ireland, so I have no opportunity to go to a dealer. Second, UK firms that operate "in disguise" do not necessarily offer wham-bam deals. Typical examples would be Pixmania, who have the 21mm at € 555 or Warehouseexpress at £400. That's not including shipping of course.

Not only that, I would get to eat great food!

Wow you're certainly being ripped off in Ireland. If you need help getting any lens from Singapore, give me a PM. Even factoring shipping, you could save a bundle.

blende8 · 02-22-2008, 10:24 AM

Btw. there is a very good 28mm for Pentax available new:

The Zeiss Distagon 28/2.0

Unfortunately it sells for about 1000 Euro.

**rparmar** · 02-22-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

Wow you're certainly being ripped off in Ireland. If you need help getting any lens from Singapore, give me a PM. Even factoring shipping, you could save a bundle.

It is actually called just that... "rip off Ireland". Supposedly the most expensive country in Europe, though I think the UK is worse since their wages are relatively lower. I might take you up on that offer once I move in a month. Or maybe I'll visit my relatives in Canada. (Also amazing food.)

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02-22-2008, 03:09 AM	#16
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	All I can say is those who have to fork out 550 Euros for a lens ought to take a shopping holiday to the Far East (HK/Singapore/China) where photographic equipment is tax free for tourists. Hongkong has no goods or services tax at all.

02-22-2008, 05:10 AM	#17
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	That is why there is no need to buy duty free goods in Hong Kong since there is no duties to start with

02-22-2008, 05:14 AM	#18
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kguru Holy maccaroni ... I wouldn't pay that much for even f2.8 First, Pentax doesn't even sell in Ireland, so I have no opportunity to go to a dealer. Second, UK firms that operate "in disguise" do not necessarily offer wham-bam deals. Typical examples would be Pixmania, who have the 21mm at € 555 or Warehouseexpress at £400. That's not including shipping of course. Originally posted by creampuff All I can say is those who have to fork out 550 Euros for a lens ought to take a shopping holiday to the Far East (HK/Singapore/China) where photographic equipment is tax free for tourists. Not only that, I would get to eat great food!

02-22-2008, 05:19 AM	#19
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819 Original Poster	Originally posted by tux08902 The DA Limited and FA Limited lenses aim to do different things. Each set of lenses makes certain compromises when compared to the other. Just understand and leave it at that. But the FA series are going, going, gone... They are not on the roadmap. By the time I can afford them I'll be lucky to find one. Pentax is not pursuing large aperture but instead small size. I think that's a misplaced priority. Originally posted by tux08902 More importantly, you shouldn't even be discussing things. Just get what suits your style of photography, namely your needs the best. Well surely that's good advice but if we all took it as gospel these forums would shut down pretty quickly. I have mentioned more than once that I've a brand "new" lens to try out, so it's not as though all I'm doing is typing. Thing is, Irish weather doesn't give me so many opportunities to go wild with photography. Another reason for a trip to Hong Kong! But the point of the thread was, first, to see if my theories about 28mm were correct, which people seem to confirm. And second, to wonder as to the rather pointed gap in the Pentax lens lineup. And, as I've been told, the DA 30 will fill that in focal length (if not speed). Though I wonder why a nice rounded focal length number? Why not continue the esoteric numerology and choose exactly the correct diagonal length... and make a 28mm. After all, we now know it to be the "perfect normal" for the cropped sensor!

02-22-2008, 07:20 AM	#20
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by rparmar First, Pentax doesn't even sell in Ireland, so I have no opportunity to go to a dealer. Second, UK firms that operate "in disguise" do not necessarily offer wham-bam deals. Typical examples would be Pixmania, who have the 21mm at € 555 or Warehouseexpress at £400. That's not including shipping of course. Not only that, I would get to eat great food! Wow you're certainly being ripped off in Ireland. If you need help getting any lens from Singapore, give me a PM. Even factoring shipping, you could save a bundle.

02-22-2008, 10:24 AM	#21
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Btw. there is a very good 28mm for Pentax available new: The Zeiss Distagon 28/2.0 Unfortunately it sells for about 1000 Euro.

02-22-2008, 11:12 AM	#22
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819 Original Poster	Originally posted by creampuff Wow you're certainly being ripped off in Ireland. If you need help getting any lens from Singapore, give me a PM. Even factoring shipping, you could save a bundle. It is actually called just that... "rip off Ireland". Supposedly the most expensive country in Europe, though I think the UK is worse since their wages are relatively lower. I might take you up on that offer once I move in a month. Or maybe I'll visit my relatives in Canada. (Also amazing food.)