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01-28-2013, 08:53 AM   #16
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Go for it!

I went through that progression:
18-55, then 35 Macro and DA 15,
although I did have an old M100/2.8 for tele.

01-28-2013, 09:36 AM   #17
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Go for it!

I went through that progression:
18-55, then 35 Macro and DA 15,
although I did have an old M100/2.8 for tele.
Are you happy with those lenses? It doesn't bother you to have to switch them out? Of course the 15 would most likely be used for landscape shots anyway........
And I would hang onto my kit lens. It's only worth 50 bucks on the open market anyhow.....
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QuoteOriginally posted by Driline Quote
Are you happy with those lenses?
Absolutely. They're two of Pentax's best,
and show why APS-C makes a lot of sense.

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It doesn't bother you to have to switch them out?
No, that's what a DSLR is for!

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Of course the 15 would most likely be used for landscape shots anyway........
I also use mine for architecture, and general reportage.
With shake reduction,
you can hand hold down to 1/13 sec quite reliably,
and sometimes even longer.

QuoteOriginally posted by Driline Quote
And I would hang onto my kit lens. It's only worth 50 bucks on the open market anyhow.....
It still makes a useful travel lens,
or you can use it in situations
where the lens might be at risk.
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I've owned two copies of the 16-45. And I currently own the DA 15 ltd.

The 16-45 is a fine lens optically. Sadly though, both my copies started to become wobbly. The zoom part, which extends, seemed to come loose after a while. Both of them then started to suffer from focussing past infinity.

Even though the the 16-45 is optically very good for a zoom, the DA 15 is sharper, has less CA, less distortion, built like a tiny little tank, and yes you can see that 1mm difference as well.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
I've owned two copies of the 16-45.
The 16-45 is a fine lens optically. Sadly though, both my copies started to become wobbly.
The zoom part, which extends, seemed to come loose after a while. Both of them then started to suffer from focussing past infinity.
Interesting to hear this.

Hopefully the promised DA Ltd zoom will hold together better.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
Interesting to hear this.

Hopefully the promised DA Ltd zoom will hold together better.
It's a known problem with the 16-45: Pentax DA 16-45mm 1:4 ED/AL review: Digital Photography Review
With the play in the barrel when fully extended, gravity is able to pull it down. "Bending" the lens. The play gets worse and worse when the lens gets older and more use.

Do doubt the ltd zoom will be built with the same tight tolerances as the ltd primes. I'll preorder it as soon they release it.

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I've owned two copies of the 16-45. And I currently own the DA 15 ltd.

The 16-45 is a fine lens optically. Sadly though, both my copies started to become wobbly. The zoom part, which extends, seemed to come loose after a while. Both of them then started to suffer from focussing past infinity.

Even though the the 16-45 is optically very good for a zoom, the DA 15 is sharper, has less CA, less distortion, built like a tiny little tank, and yes you can see that 1mm difference as well.
I wondered about that. It's such a long lens when zooming "IN" to 16mm. That's one reason I am inclined to go with the primes.
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Interesting to hear this.

Hopefully the promised DA Ltd zoom will hold together better.
Limited Prime Zoom? Coming to theaters near you when?

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Limited . . . Zoom? Coming to theaters near you when?

2013 or later:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/pdf/lens_roadmap.pdf
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Do doubt the ltd zoom will be built with the same tight tolerances as the ltd primes.
The primes aren't perfect.

Look at the decentering on the "Blur Index" chart
of the SLR Gear test of the DA 40 Ltd:

Pentax Lens: Primes - Pentax 40mm f/2.8 Limited SMC P-DA (Tested) - SLRgear.com!
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I don't know about the DA Limiteds, but one of the things that sets apart the FA Limited lenses from others is that they are built by hand.

My 16-45, which was bought used here, is old and has seen quite a bit of use and is still in perfect condition. My primes get a lot more use though and I prefer them. With the exception of my FA* 80-200 I only use my zooms when I'm feeling lazy, and it shows in my pictures when that happens.
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Main reason to buy the DA15 is its compact size. (Pixie dust aside)
Main reason to buy the DA 16-45 is that it is $200 cheaper and zooms.
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Main reason to buy the DA15 is its compact size. (Pixie dust aside)
Main reason to buy the DA 16-45 is that it is $200 cheaper and zooms.
I do like the 15mm size. That zoom lens is quite large when extended out.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Driline Quote
I do like the 15mm size. That zoom lens is quite large when extended out.
I carry the 15, myself. I'm not averse to changing lenses, and the handling is pretty sweet.
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