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02-02-2013, 03:04 PM   #16
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FA 35mm f/2 is great. Normal focal length, big enough aperture to take shots with great subject isolation / borkeh (there's a really big difference between f/2 and f/2.8 in terms of depth of field), and it's sharp at pretty much all apertures across the entire frame, at least matching the DA 35mm.

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Pretty rubbish at MF!

FA 35mm f2 looks very promising, and can still be bought new.

Might try and save for that and the FA 50mm f1.7.

But as a start point, maybe the 35mm. Think I now prefer that option to the Siggy 30mm.

Edit...

If I sell a bit more junk on eBay I could get the da 35 f2.4 and da 50 f1.8.

Or save for longer and get the 55mm SDM. I so like the look of this lens!

There is always the Siggy 50mm hsm.

Who says pentax does not have a lot of choice!

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QuoteOriginally posted by JayX2A Quote
Will check out the 40mm.

siamthai - I see you have the DA55 - worth the money?

Hmmmm.... think the 55mm is a bit of a wish looking at prices!
Absolutely. But I didn't buy a new one. Paid USD 550 for it and it's in pristine condition. I mostly buy used lenses and have always been very lucky to get lenses that's in very good condition (the only lens I bought new is DA*300). Maybe Pentaxowners take good care of their lenses and cameras :-)

But I do miss my DA40 ltd and may buy one again.
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Hmmmm, will keep a look out on eBay etc. Guess its worth the premium over the sigma 50mm?

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I suspect you can't get away without using an external flash if you are shooting mostly indoor subjects.
Why not spend a few hours with an external flash and current zoom indoors and play and see what do you really need.

K5II will manage high ISO without a doubt. However, it is nice if you can get your shots with low ISO indoors. A fraction of filled or bounced flash and manually set your ISO will get you those inddor shots with lower ISO. If you find yourself can't get away with an external flash, your current zoom is more than adequate.

I have shot a lot of indoor events with my DA16-50 or Sigma 17-50 with an external flash. However, i often use aperture of 4-5 to get the desired DOF.

If you are shooting two subjects, then 30mm prime will fill the frame nicely (full or above waist). If you shoot predominantly one subject above waist or above shoulder, then 50mm is great. Even with primes, photography is all about capturing light (may have to add light) unless you prefer prom shots with ambient light.

In addition to the above zoom lenses, i have FA 31 and Sigma 50 f1.4. Sigma 50 is huge, prompt to flare but sharp wide open, even at 1.4. It is warm in colour like Nikkor lenses.

Practise as much as you can before the big night. You will need the flash.
All the best!
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Thanks for the tips guys. Friend bought his Siggy 50mm round today. My god its huge!
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try the 35mm f2.4 so underrated, so good even wide open
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QuoteOriginally posted by JayX2A Quote
I have on order a K5 II with 18-135 WR lens.
I want to get a nice good image quality prime that will not only be able to help me do this, but also be able to take low light shots and indoor shots.
I was set on getting the Sigma 30mm f1.4 but really not sure if that will be too short. I don't really want to I above 50mm either.
So looking for a good all round prime that will be used in a variety of situations. Of course I can get another when funds allow.
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I think with primes you are looking at multiple lenses. 50 is probably enough with portraits but too long for many indoor shots. I agree with some others that have said test with your 18-135 and see what lengths you like. The 18-135 is an excellent lens and may give you what you need, although it is not fast. As said before you may want to use it with an external flash for those wide indoor shots. I prefer not to use flash but the cost of a fast wide angle is prohibitive, especially with auto focus. You may get by with a normal size like 35 indoors depending on what you are shooting and "how big is indoors/". Even a 28 would be a little better, but try finding an auto focus 28. One good thing, every lens that has been suggested here is a good lens, they can all do the job, so if you don't get the perfect match to what you want, improvise. Later you can sell the lens and get what you think you want then. I say that because sometimes you won't know what you really need until you use it. You'll be in very small company if you ever think you have the perfect kit.

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^^ top tips!! Think I might save for the 55 and a 30ish.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JayX2A Quote
Will check out the 40mm.

siamthai - I see you have the DA55 - worth the money?

Hmmmm.... thik the 55mm is a bit of a wish looking at prices!

There are two 40mm's in the Pentax line. The 40mm f 2.8, Limited is the one to get IMO, if you choose a 40mm lens.

The 40mm ...believe it is the XS...is a cheaper lens. I have the 40mm Limited and it is an excellent lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JayX2A Quote
Thanks for the tips guys. Friend bought his Siggy 50mm round today. My god its huge!
My guess is that was the macro, which is what I have. It's a really nice, versatile lens, but larger than most due to the macro extension. The DA 35mm is not really suited for portraits, so I think a 40 or 50 is in order. If I were to get a 40mm, I personally get the XS as it is cheaper but shares the optics with the Limited.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JayX2A Quote
Maybe I should concentrate on quality over low light and get a flash too.
First lens I bought new was a FA 50/1.4 for exactly that reason. I like to use available light and it does the trick.

Slightly soft/dreamy at 1.4, sharpening up by 2.0. I've taken many of my favourite pictures of my two young boys with that lens. After getting the 50-135/2.8 it is now my 2nd favourite portrait lens.

You do make a good point regarding flash.

I had ignored getting a flash until recently, and I wish I had bought one sooner! Using bounce off walls I can really play with lighting and get portraits that I could only have dreamt of prior.
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Still none the wiser!

Think it will be the 55mm or DA 35 & 50mm combo.

Sigma 50 is just a bit too big!
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QuoteOriginally posted by JayX2A Quote
Still none the wiser!

Think it will be the 55mm or DA 35 & 50mm combo.

Sigma 50 is just a bit too big!
The real answer is... you need it all!

That's why it all exists. Each item is suited to certain things.

If my priority was portrait, I'd get a DA 70. Walkabout? DA 35. Bit of both plus low light, shallow DOF and nice bokeh? FA 50/1.4.

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QuoteOriginally posted by JayX2A Quote
Still none the wiser!

Think it will be the 55mm or DA 35 & 50mm combo.

Sigma 50 is just a bit too big!
If you have the 18-135, why not set it to a focal length and try it out for the shots you want to do? There is a definite difference between 30, 35, 40, 50 and 55, so worth figuring out which will work bet before spending the money. (Says a guy with way too many lenses).

eta I mean , use the 18-135 for practice, set first at 30, then 35, then 40, and so on.
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