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02-25-2008, 07:17 PM   #1
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Another "Holy crap the FA77 is freakin' AWESOME" thread

Just got the FA77 I BIN'ed from a Canadian dealer on ebay (who incidentally described it as $150 worth of "SLR accessories" on the customs declaration -- thanks a million, bro!). Anyway, now I know what all the hubbub is about. It absolutely equals the FA31 in the jaw-dropping-IQ department (except maybe wide open), and that is no small feat.

In the hand and printed it's pretty much a portrait length FA31. Brilliant. Just brilliant.

And since I sold off every one of my lenses other than the FA31 (not to mention a couple of film bodies) to fund it, it looks like I'll be shooting some serious portraiture these days.

A couple of quick pics. Crappy light, slow shutter speeds, etc. etc.




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Damn! That puppy is sharp. That's one more on my list. I hope I can save up $8000 quick. Then, I can go on my lens-buying rampage!
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Sweet pics. Looks like you'll be making fine use of this lens!
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Congrats!! Just got mine last week. Check out the following link (hit 'slideshow' on the right to get larger images to truly appreciate the lens resolution)


Picasa Web Albums - Jay - 77ltd




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02-26-2008, 12:25 AM   #5
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Wow, you are definitely adding new lenses to your collections. A legendary series here
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Those shots look great! Our friends had that exact turtle for their little son. I have a picture of it with my old 18-558mm kit lens

How do you like the 77mm compared to the 50-135mm?

I'm really liking my 85mm f/1.8 on my 40D.

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Congrats!! Just got mine last week. Check out the following link (hit 'slideshow' on the right to get larger images to truly appreciate the lens resolution)


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02-26-2008, 07:08 AM   #7
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Hi Finn, welcome to the club. Now you know what everybody is talking about! I am sooooo glad I decided to save up for this lens.

NaCl(as they say here in the Bronx, "It don't suck" )H2O
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QuoteOriginally posted by tux08902 Quote
Damn! That puppy is sharp. That's one more on my list. I hope I can save up $8000 quick. Then, I can go on my lens-buying rampage!
*shrug* just from the samples they don't seem like anything I couldn't do with any of the other cheap lens I have.

I'm sure it's probably sharp, the pictures presented just doesn't say it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kb244 Quote
*shrug* just from the samples they don't seem like anything I couldn't do with any of the other cheap lens I have.

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You either woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, or you fell off of it and hit your head kinda hard. If our samples are distasteful to you, check out all the others available all over the internet, and read the professional reviews of this lens, as well as the user reviews. Wide open it's pretty sharp, stopped down it's incredible. But the sharpness is just part of the story, color, bokeh, resolution (not quite the same as sharpness), and contrast all combine to make this lens special.

I think about the only drawback with the 77 is some CA and fringing in certain harsh situations, but if it didn't have at least one flaw, I'd suspect that it was designed by aliens.





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QuoteOriginally posted by egordon99 Quote
Those shots look great! Our friends had that exact turtle for their little son. I have a picture of it with my old 18-558mm kit lens

How do you like the 77mm compared to the 50-135mm?

I'm really liking my 85mm f/1.8 on my 40D.
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Heh, he loves that turtle, in fact it doesn't seem like he wants to sleep without it now.

I'd have to give the nod to the 77 over the 50-135. The 50-135 blows me away with what it can do - I mean, it's basically like buying 5 top quality, and I mean top quality primes between 50 and 135mm. It's that sharp at all focal lengths, and even wide open it's tack sharp in the middle.

But the 77 can occasionally floor me. It often makes me feel like I just created something art-like, vs. just taken a photograph, and I don't consider myself a good photographer.

My SMC-M 85mm f/2 is similar to my 77, so I bet your Canon 85mm is somewhat similar too, or at least I think I heard that it was. That focal length must be some sort of sweet-spot for optic design possibilities.

Finn, you got any more photos yet?? let's see em!



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Those are nice, great pick up. As soon as I get my DA*'s my nect purchases will be the 31 & 77 LTD's for sure.
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QuoteOriginally posted by egordon99 Quote
Those shots look great! Our friends had that exact turtle for their little son. I have a picture of it with my old 18-558mm kit lens

How do you like the 77mm compared to the 50-135mm?

I'm really liking my 85mm f/1.8 on my 40D.
Canon EF 85mm f1.8 is not in the same league to Fa 77 ltd in which Fa 77 ltd definitely has much better corner sharpness and contrast wide open. Canon 85/1.8 does have fast autofocus and its relative "cheaper" price tag comparing L lenses. However, 85/1.8 has inferior bokeh comparing to fa 77 ltd.

After all, fa 77 ltd is the first lens I learnt in pentax prime lens line-up and let go my prejudice against most non-canon brand products ...
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My SMC-M 85mm f/2 is similar to my 77...

That's what I'm afraid of. I'd dearly love to have the 31mm and 77mm limited lenses, but are they really going to be $1500 better than my M-series 85mm and 35mm? (sigh) I definitely need to win the lottery so I can indulge my LBA with no worries. lol
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I have both the 31mm and the 77mm. The 31mm is more practical or everyday for me, but the 77mm is still my favorite lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by TaoMaas Quote
That's what I'm afraid of. I'd dearly love to have the 31mm and 77mm limited lenses, but are they really going to be $1500 better than my M-series 85mm and 35mm? (sigh) I definitely need to win the lottery so I can indulge my LBA with no worries. lol

Someone in the forum put in nicely when they said, (paraphrasing) : The 31ltd is three times the price of the 35 f/2 (300%), but is only 10% better, overall. We're willing to pay a huge premium for that last 10%.

I don't know if I'd agree with those exact numbers, but in general you could say that the 31ltd is not 300% better IQ than the 35mm - but the price to get that relatively small IQ difference is just very high and pretty much always will be.

So you have to decide, I guess. For me, I don't think I can justify/afford the 31ltd right now, but I could probably talk myself into buying a used 35 f/2, and be extremely happy with it.

I'd say the IQ difference between my 77ltd and SMC 85 is about 15%, but the 77 is AF and the 85 is not, so that really adds to the value difference also.


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