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02-27-2008, 07:24 PM   #1
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Wide-angle lens to replace K10D kit lens

I have a 50mm prime and a zoom lens I'm happy with but I'm looking for a wide-angle in the $400 price range to replace the 18-55 kit lens. I'm looking at landscapes, wedding photography and travel photography mainly. Love to do available light shots but have the high-end accessory flash and a bracket for those times when available light won't cut it.

There are two on Amazon I'm looking at: Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC SLD ELD and Pentax SMCPDA 16-45mm Zoom f/4.0 ED/AL.

I'm thinking the Sigma f/2.8 will be better for the available light - any reason I should select the Pentax over the Sigma?? Any others I should consider? Looking forward to reading what y'all have to say!

02-27-2008, 07:32 PM   #2
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The Pentax 16-45 is a wonderful lens, you wont put the kit lens back on your camera. That said, the Sigma 17-70 is also very highly regarded, and gives you better range. I wandered NYC recently with the 16-45 in the day and a K 50 1.4 at night and did great. If you get the 16-45 used you might have enough to get an M 80-200 to round it out.
02-27-2008, 07:36 PM   #3
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Cameta Camera still has the older version of the Sigma 18-50 for about $260. Af few people have claimed a yellow tint with it, but I've never seen any "proof".

Amazon.com: Sigma 18-50mm F/2.8 EX DC Lens for Pentax Digital SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo
02-27-2008, 07:48 PM   #4
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Another vote for the Pentax 16-45. I bought mine a few months ago, and it's on my camera most of the time.

I don't think the f4.0 aperture is as much of a disadvantage as some would say.

If you're shooting in daylight, it's not really necessary, unless you must have f2.8 bokeh, and if you're using flash you'll probably be stopping down to at least f5.6.

For me, the 16mm end is wider than I need for most situations, so I think it's just about a perfect general-use lens. The kit lens is pretty good, but I think you'll notice an increase in sharpness and color saturation when you get one.

I'll see if I can dig up some decent 16-45 images.

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I do have the Sigma 70-300 that does macro at the 200-300 range. I like this lens and I also like the 50mm f/1.4 prime I bought recently. So I feel good about those lenses but I don't care for the kit lens. After I replace that the next one I want to get is a fisheye...
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Here are 4 mixed 16-45mm shots.
19mm @ f5.6 @ 1/60sec. Metz 36C-2 flash direct. No diffusion

45mm @ f5.6 @ 1/60sec Metz 36C-2 flash direct.

28mm @ f5.6 @ 1/90sec Metz 36C-2 flash into Stofen Omni-bounce diffuser.

29mm @ f4.5 @ 1/180sec. Available light only.


The photos are all pretty sharp, and the colors are very good to excellent in my opinion.

I like this lens.

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02-28-2008, 03:41 PM   #7
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Those pictures are definitely a lot better than ones I've taken with the kit lens. Thanks for posting out there - looks like I could get a lot of use out of that lens.
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One thing that the Sigma 17-70 has going for it that the 16-45 doesn't is length. If you were to get it, then you would have no gap between it and the 70-300. I'd be glad to share some pics from mine, but it hasn't gotten here yet--I should be getting it tomorrow.

Does anybody have any 17-70 images they'd be willing to share?

Another option, if you're willing to wait until this summer, is the Pentax 17-70/4. Although I'm getting the Sigma version now, I'm curious as to how well the Pentax version, with it's constant aperture, is going to do compared to it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by hwblanks Quote
Does anybody have any 17-70 images they'd be willing to share?
I have a ton of examples of the 17-70 in my Alaska gallery..


Alaska Photo Gallery by palmor at pbase.com


Enjoy!
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02-28-2008, 07:12 PM   #10
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Great Alaska pics - Especially loved the otters! I think you've sold me on that lens. I was wondering what lens you used on the 400mm shots - those were great, too.
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QuoteOriginally posted by StacyA1973 Quote
Great Alaska pics - Especially loved the otters! I think you've sold me on that lens. I was wondering what lens you used on the 400mm shots - those were great, too.
Thanks . I used the Tokina AT-X 400mm f/5.6 on almost all the wildlife shots (the only exception are the two photos of the Moose and Calf). You can find it used on ebay every once in a while, unfortunately the average price of the lens has increased by $200 sine I bought mine less then a year ago (I bought mine for $450 and now they go for $650).

There have been a few reports of people getting bad copies of the 17-70 but I don't think its been any worse then another lens (from Sigma or Pentax for that matter, the DA* 16-50 seemed to have a lot of QC issues reported). Anyway I only mention it because I think it is important to buy any lens from someplace with a no hassle return policy just in case.

Thanks again
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Hi,

I am also thinking about replacing the Kit zoom... and are looking at the 16-45, 17-70 and 18-50, one dissadvantage for the 16-45 that I am concerned about is that it is fully extended at 16, which limit the use of the internal flash... what I have heard is that the flash will be shadowed by the lens.... any one who can confirm this?

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Does anybody have any 17-70 images they'd be willing to share?
Go to briantimmins's photos and albums on webshots and look for my albums named "Italy-Greece07-1(through 17)"
All of these pictures were taken with my K10D (about 4 months old at the time) and my Sigma 17-70 (about 2 months old at the time). This trip was my reason (excuse) for upgrading to DSLR. About 6 (maybe a few more) of these pictures also used the Tamron 1.4 TC.

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The options are pretty much:
Tokina/Vivitar/Cosina 19-35 (f3.5-4.5?)
Pentax 18-35
Pentax 16-45/4
Pentax 16-50/2.8 (expensive)
Sigma 18-50/2.8
Sigma 18-50/2.8 Macro (more expensive)
Sigma 17-70/2.8-4
Tamron 17-50/2.8

I'd go for the last one, but that's just me
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So I saw the press release for the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 on dpreview.com but haven't seen it for sell on adorama.com or bhphotovideo.com (or amazon.com). Anyone know if this lens is out there yet? The press release made it sound like it is... Thanks.
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