I feel so inadequate

**Kerrowdown** · 03-17-2013, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by SpecialK

I think Lauren was referring to the missing head of some sort

Oh Ok, I didn't see anything odd in the shot because I use my Manfrotto 680B the same way i.e. without head for 90 percent of the time.

The rest of the time with the basic Manfrotto 234 to allow vertical shoots.

**monochrome** · 03-17-2013, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by p38arover

I now feel so inadequate.

What's the expression? "It isn't how big the lens is but how the owner uses it?"

(And the response is, "I'll take a good big lens over a good small lens every day of the week.")

MPrince · 03-17-2013, 08:37 AM

I never feel inadequate when shooting with my Pentax gear.

**Canada_Rockies** · 03-17-2013, 08:41 AM

Mounting my M 400 on my K10D (talk about out of date ...) and then on my Manfrotto 055 tripod, the interpreters in the welcoming committee said words to the effect of "You know they are serious when they bring out the bazookas." It's all relative.

post_eos · 03-17-2013, 08:47 AM

Your equipment was actually too good. Put that lens on a $200 Q and you'd outreach that Nikon monster and get decent pix while still letting him feel superior

halfspin · 03-17-2013, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

I still love my Monopod when I need a good stick to hold/wrap my hands around...and keep my favorite lens-up.

Oh, wait...what is this thread called again?

Great now my lens is stuck @ full zoom.

normhead · 03-17-2013, 09:02 AM

I don't even want a lens like that. I would like the body that would allow me to carry that all day though. After thinking long and hard about an FA* 250-600 I realized, my DA*60-250 feels heavy after carrying it for 10 Km, that sucker would drive me right into the ground, have me panting like a dog in a heat wave, have my knees buckling like a ladder rated at 200lbs with Shaq trying to climb it... you get the picture.

Next to that guy I'd say, " MIne weighs 2 pounds, how much does your weigh? Oh, I think I see a much better angle on that little rise over there 150 meters away. Should I save you a spot? Wait until the ambulance gets here to escort you over, we should be prepared."

builttospill · 03-17-2013, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by reeftool

Don't feel inadequate. Your DA 60-250 is a fine piece of glass. I shoot flat track and ice racing often. This past ice season, I used a K300/4 with my K10D. The riders all love the shots and the event sponsoring club has a link to my online album on their website. There are always a few pro photographers with expensive gear and they are usually shooting with the intent of selling their shots. I shoot right along side and enjoy listening to them cuss up a storm when their AF ceases to function once the snow and ice starts to fly.
https://plus.google.com/photos/118005862460319379444/albums/5845767573822434673?banner=pwa

Those are very nice photos. It look like a fun event to watch.

**boriscleto** · 03-17-2013, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by normhead

I don't even want a lens like that. I would like the body that would allow me to carry that all day though. After thinking long and hard about an FA* 250-600 I realized, my DA*60-250 feels heavy after carrying it for 10 Km, that sucker would drive me right into the ground, have me panting like a dog in a heat wave, have my knees buckling like a ladder rated at 200lbs with Shaq trying to climb it... you get the picture.

Next to that guy I'd say, " MIne weighs 2 pounds, how much does your weigh? Oh, I think I see a much better angle on that little rise over there 150 meters away. Should I save you a spot? Wait until the ambulance gets here to escort you over, we should be prepared."

Heh, he said long and hard.

normhead · 03-17-2013, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Heh, he said long and hard.

You really have to think ~~long and hard~~ carefully, before you post on this site.

**LaurenOE** · 03-17-2013, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by gryphongryph

Because of the weight of the lens, mounting the camera to the monopod with that lens on it would probably damage the lens mount on the camera over time.

Most folks (including me) put a small head - at least a 90 degree one, on their monopod of some sorts. Not many folks attach the lens mount directly to the monopod.

This is what I use on my monopods

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554098-REG/Manfrotto_234RC_234RC_Swive..._Head_for.html

No one would even THINK about using the camera only with that lens - and using the tripod socket on the camera.

**LaurenOE** · 03-17-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by kerrowdown

Oh Ok, I didn't see anything odd in the shot because I use my Manfrotto 680B the same way i.e. without head for 90 percent of the time.

The rest of the time with the basic Manfrotto 234 to allow vertical shoots.

Interesting!

I've never tried using my monopod "naked" like that!

I always go for a head of some sort!

**Canada_Rockies** · 03-17-2013, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

This is what I use on my monopods

Manfrotto 234RC Tilt Head for Monopods, with Quick Release 234RC

That's the same one I use.

p38arover · 03-17-2013, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

How does he shoot with one arm akimbo?

He was waiting for the next race. I noticed that he and his mate, who also had big glass, held the end of the lens hood when shooting. I tried it later (at another corner) and it certainly helped when I was in monopod mode. Most of the day I used a tripod as I've never been successful with the monopod.

BTW, the "inadequate" comment was tongue in cheek! That pic was a severe crop from the original and I was happy with its quality. He was some distance away.

I did notice that my camera/lens combo was vibrating in the wind and removing the lens hood helped as did removing the BlackRapid strap which was blowing around and hitting the tripod legs causing even more vibration.

p38arover · 03-17-2013, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by kerrowdown

Oh Ok, I didn't see anything odd in the shot because I use my Manfrotto 680B the same way i.e. without head for 90 percent of the time.

The rest of the time with the basic Manfrotto 234 to allow vertical shoots.

With the DA* 60-250 one can rotate the body on the lens for portrait mode.

Oh, that photog didn't walk to that corner like I did. He drove. I'll do that next time!

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03-17-2013, 08:28 AM	#16
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,819	Originally posted by SpecialK I think Lauren was referring to the missing head of some sort Oh Ok, I didn't see anything odd in the shot because I use my Manfrotto 680B the same way i.e. without head for 90 percent of the time. The rest of the time with the basic Manfrotto 234 to allow vertical shoots.

03-17-2013, 08:34 AM	#17
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by p38arover I now feel so inadequate. What's the expression? "It isn't how big the lens is but how the owner uses it?" (And the response is, "I'll take a good big lens over a good small lens every day of the week.")

03-17-2013, 08:37 AM	#18
MPrince Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 1,495	I never feel inadequate when shooting with my Pentax gear.

03-17-2013, 08:41 AM	#19
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Mounting my M 400 on my K10D (talk about out of date ...) and then on my Manfrotto 055 tripod, the interpreters in the welcoming committee said words to the effect of "You know they are serious when they bring out the bazookas." It's all relative.

03-17-2013, 08:47 AM	#20
post_eos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Riverside CA Photos: Albums Posts: 269	Your equipment was actually too good. Put that lens on a $200 Q and you'd outreach that Nikon monster and get decent pix while still letting him feel superior

03-17-2013, 08:57 AM	#21
halfspin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	Originally posted by LaurenOE I still love my Monopod when I need a good stick to hold/wrap my hands around...and keep my favorite lens-up. Oh, wait...what is this thread called again? Great now my lens is stuck @ full zoom.

03-17-2013, 09:02 AM	#22
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	I don't even want a lens like that. I would like the body that would allow me to carry that all day though. After thinking long and hard about an FA* 250-600 I realized, my DA*60-250 feels heavy after carrying it for 10 Km, that sucker would drive me right into the ground, have me panting like a dog in a heat wave, have my knees buckling like a ladder rated at 200lbs with Shaq trying to climb it... you get the picture. Next to that guy I'd say, " MIne weighs 2 pounds, how much does your weigh? Oh, I think I see a much better angle on that little rise over there 150 meters away. Should I save you a spot? Wait until the ambulance gets here to escort you over, we should be prepared."

03-17-2013, 09:29 AM	#23
builttospill Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,398	Originally posted by reeftool Don't feel inadequate. Your DA 60-250 is a fine piece of glass. I shoot flat track and ice racing often. This past ice season, I used a K300/4 with my K10D. The riders all love the shots and the event sponsoring club has a link to my online album on their website. There are always a few pro photographers with expensive gear and they are usually shooting with the intent of selling their shots. I shoot right along side and enjoy listening to them cuss up a storm when their AF ceases to function once the snow and ice starts to fly. https://plus.google.com/photos/118005862460319379444/albums/5845767573822434673?banner=pwa Those are very nice photos. It look like a fun event to watch.

03-17-2013, 09:46 AM	#24
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by normhead I don't even want a lens like that. I would like the body that would allow me to carry that all day though. After thinking long and hard about an FA* 250-600 I realized, my DA*60-250 feels heavy after carrying it for 10 Km, that sucker would drive me right into the ground, have me panting like a dog in a heat wave, have my knees buckling like a ladder rated at 200lbs with Shaq trying to climb it... you get the picture. Next to that guy I'd say, " MIne weighs 2 pounds, how much does your weigh? Oh, I think I see a much better angle on that little rise over there 150 meters away. Should I save you a spot? Wait until the ambulance gets here to escort you over, we should be prepared." Heh, he said long and hard.

03-17-2013, 09:51 AM	#25
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by boriscleto Heh, he said long and hard. You really have to think ~~long and hard~~ carefully, before you post on this site.

03-17-2013, 10:37 AM	#26
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Originally posted by gryphongryph Because of the weight of the lens, mounting the camera to the monopod with that lens on it would probably damage the lens mount on the camera over time. Most folks (including me) put a small head - at least a 90 degree one, on their monopod of some sorts. Not many folks attach the lens mount directly to the monopod. This is what I use on my monopods http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554098-REG/Manfrotto_234RC_234RC_Swive..._Head_for.html No one would even THINK about using the camera only with that lens - and using the tripod socket on the camera.

03-17-2013, 10:39 AM	#27
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Originally posted by kerrowdown Oh Ok, I didn't see anything odd in the shot because I use my Manfrotto 680B the same way i.e. without head for 90 percent of the time. The rest of the time with the basic Manfrotto 234 to allow vertical shoots. Interesting! I've never tried using my monopod "naked" like that! I always go for a head of some sort!

03-17-2013, 10:44 AM	#28
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by LaurenOE This is what I use on my monopods Manfrotto 234RC Tilt Head for Monopods, with Quick Release 234RC That's the same one I use.

03-17-2013, 01:11 PM	#29
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084 Original Poster	Originally posted by JinDesu How does he shoot with one arm akimbo? He was waiting for the next race. I noticed that he and his mate, who also had big glass, held the end of the lens hood when shooting. I tried it later (at another corner) and it certainly helped when I was in monopod mode. Most of the day I used a tripod as I've never been successful with the monopod. BTW, the "inadequate" comment was tongue in cheek! That pic was a severe crop from the original and I was happy with its quality. He was some distance away. I did notice that my camera/lens combo was vibrating in the wind and removing the lens hood helped as did removing the BlackRapid strap which was blowing around and hitting the tripod legs causing even more vibration.

03-17-2013, 01:16 PM	#30
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084 Original Poster	Originally posted by kerrowdown Oh Ok, I didn't see anything odd in the shot because I use my Manfrotto 680B the same way i.e. without head for 90 percent of the time. The rest of the time with the basic Manfrotto 234 to allow vertical shoots. With the DA* 60-250 one can rotate the body on the lens for portrait mode. Oh, that photog didn't walk to that corner like I did. He drove. I'll do that next time!