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Driline · 03-24-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Ash

I'm not sure about the 12-24 being better in IQ than the 21. All the Ltds are just excellent in IQ, and the 12-24 versatile whilst still being great in IQ, but the 12-24 is bulky and heavier (although lighter than most other UWA lenses of its class).

I hear you can use the 12-24 as a weapon.

twitch · 03-24-2013, 02:21 PM

The 12-24 is not that heavy at all but it has a large hood.

As for the DA21, as you can see from my sig line I voted it out, but I still have the 12-24.

Driline · 03-24-2013, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by twitch

The 12-24 is not that heavy at all but it has a large hood.

As for the DA21, as you can see from my sig line I voted it out, but I still have the 12-24.

You voted it off the Island? So the DA 15 is still Ok I see. I also noticed you have the FA 31. I'm afraid if I bought the FA 31, my FA 43 would become a moot point.

twitch · 03-24-2013, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Driline

You voted it off the Island? So the DA 15 is still Ok I see. I also noticed you have the FA 31. I'm afraid if I bought the FA 31, my FA 43 would become a moot point.

Yes, I found in the end that the DA21 was a solution looking for a problem. The 15 though is a good UWA when you want flare resistance and/or don't want to carry a 12-24 with you. The FA31 is just flat out amazing; film or digital, wide open or stopped down, it never fails to deliver. I suspect I have a good copy though, no wobble and very sharp even at wide apertures, others may not. The only lens I regret selling, deeply regret, is the K50/1.2. I was insane to let that go

**rparmar** · 03-26-2013, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by twitch

The 12-24 is not that heavy at all but it has a large hood.

As for the DA21, as you can see from my sig line I voted it out, but I still have the 12-24.

It's also a lot more compact than carrying a 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm, 22mm, 23mm, and 24mm prime all in one bag!

I am a prime person, but in the wide end every small change in field of view can make a difference. Having one lens to do it all is not a bad "compromise". Actually, I traded away a Limited to get this zoom. The build is only average, but the IQ is spot on.

tabl10s · 03-26-2013, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

It's also a lot more compact than carrying a 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm, 22mm, 23mm, and 24mm prime all in one bag!

I am a prime person, but in the wide end every small change in field of view can make a difference. Having one lens to do it all is not a bad "compromise". Actually, I traded away a Limited to get this zoom. The build is only average, but the IQ is spot on.

Does the lens actually have all the FL's on the barrel?

calculator01 · 03-26-2013, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by tabl10s

Does the lens actually have all the FL's on the barrel?

No, that would be unnecessary.

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03-24-2013, 02:15 PM	#31
Driline Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: IOWA Where the Tall Corn Grows Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,705 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ash I'm not sure about the 12-24 being better in IQ than the 21. All the Ltds are just excellent in IQ, and the 12-24 versatile whilst still being great in IQ, but the 12-24 is bulky and heavier (although lighter than most other UWA lenses of its class). I hear you can use the 12-24 as a weapon.

03-24-2013, 02:21 PM	#32
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	The 12-24 is not that heavy at all but it has a large hood. As for the DA21, as you can see from my sig line I voted it out, but I still have the 12-24.

03-24-2013, 03:42 PM	#33
Driline Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: IOWA Where the Tall Corn Grows Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,705 Original Poster	Originally posted by twitch The 12-24 is not that heavy at all but it has a large hood. As for the DA21, as you can see from my sig line I voted it out, but I still have the 12-24. You voted it off the Island? So the DA 15 is still Ok I see. I also noticed you have the FA 31. I'm afraid if I bought the FA 31, my FA 43 would become a moot point.

03-24-2013, 03:56 PM	#34
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Originally posted by Driline You voted it off the Island? So the DA 15 is still Ok I see. I also noticed you have the FA 31. I'm afraid if I bought the FA 31, my FA 43 would become a moot point. Yes, I found in the end that the DA21 was a solution looking for a problem. The 15 though is a good UWA when you want flare resistance and/or don't want to carry a 12-24 with you. The FA31 is just flat out amazing; film or digital, wide open or stopped down, it never fails to deliver. I suspect I have a good copy though, no wobble and very sharp even at wide apertures, others may not. The only lens I regret selling, deeply regret, is the K50/1.2. I was insane to let that go

03-26-2013, 08:13 PM	#35
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,823	Originally posted by twitch The 12-24 is not that heavy at all but it has a large hood. As for the DA21, as you can see from my sig line I voted it out, but I still have the 12-24. It's also a lot more compact than carrying a 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm, 22mm, 23mm, and 24mm prime all in one bag! I am a prime person, but in the wide end every small change in field of view can make a difference. Having one lens to do it all is not a bad "compromise". Actually, I traded away a Limited to get this zoom. The build is only average, but the IQ is spot on.

03-26-2013, 09:27 PM	#36
tabl10s Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento(formerly from B'Ham, England). Posts: 1,424	Originally posted by rparmar It's also a lot more compact than carrying a 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm, 22mm, 23mm, and 24mm prime all in one bag! I am a prime person, but in the wide end every small change in field of view can make a difference. Having one lens to do it all is not a bad "compromise". Actually, I traded away a Limited to get this zoom. The build is only average, but the IQ is spot on. Does the lens actually have all the FL's on the barrel?

03-26-2013, 09:53 PM	#37
calculator01 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 817	Originally posted by tabl10s Does the lens actually have all the FL's on the barrel? No, that would be unnecessary.

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