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03-27-2013, 05:07 AM   #16
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Since you like macro I'd suggest one of the lenses be the Tamron 90mm F/2.8. Yes I know that it's not 2.0 but with the much better high ISO performance of the K-30 you won't notice it. I own both the Tamron 90mm macro and the Pentax 100mm WR macro and I prefer the Tamron. I prefer the Tamron mainly for two reasons. In manual focus (which I feel is absolutely necessary for macro photography) the throw of the Tamron manual focus ring is longer than the Pentax. That makes it considerably easier to fine tune your focus with the Tamron. The second reason is that the Tamron has a focus limiting switch which means that when in auto focus mode the lens is limited in its throw. Having the Pentax go from infinity to macro and back is annoying as hell. Granted the Pentax has WR which is nice, but not as nice as the better fine focusing of the Tamron. All the other characteristics of the two lenses are a wash; bokeh is slightly different on the two lenses but equally as good, color rendition the same, both lenses are similar in size and weight and both double as short teles/portrait lenses.

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QuoteOriginally posted by EarlVonTapia Quote
This.

A solid yet cheap starter pack would be the DA 18-135 and the DA 35 2.4. You've got wide, normal, and tele to explore what type of photography you might like, and you've got a prime to play with a fixed focal length and relatively fast aperture. Both of these lenses pop up frequently on the forum, and as long as you don't trash them, they can be re-sold for pretty much the same as you bought them.

Have fun!
Pretty good advice here IMO ... I have the DA 35/2.4 and it's a great lens for the value ... J
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Hi Beetle B
Welcome to the dark side. Get the WR kit lens by all means its a pretty decent lens for travel and quick easy snapshot type photos and the WR keeps water and more importantly dust at bay. IMHO a Pentax kit isn't complete without a fast 50, M 50 1.4 or 1.7 isn't gonna break the bank and gives you lots of speed and IQ for little money. Similarly a F 35-70 gives you AF, nice IQ and close focus in a compact package, again for chips. From there the world is your oyster. You like macro, put a tube or two on the M 50 for peanuts. If you want to spend more I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions and that just highlights the big plus for Pentax, there's plenty of great options at any price point. Enjoy your stay.
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The obvious way to start is to get the dual kit lenses: 18-55mm and 55-300mm. Both are well considered for entry lenses and their prices are decent.
I agree. The 18-55 is pretty good from about 24mm on up. The 55-300 is terrific from about 80mm on up. I personally would go with those (and the cheaper DA-L version of the 55-300) to give me a jump start on the system. That way you can figure over time which other lenses you want to add later.

I'd also toss in a good, cheap & fast 50. The A 50 / 1.7 would be a good choice. Available for $60-ish, it's a great performer & plenty fast enough.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jkomp316 Quote
buy the body - skip the consumer zoom lenses, you'll just end up selling them later

get some old primes 28 35 50 135
The consumer lenses do their job. Still I just sold my kit lens. And I have added all above mentioned old manual primes plus a few (85, 400 and 500).
The manual primes are fun.

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Everyone,

Thanks a lot for the suggestions!

At the moment I'm leaning heavily towards the first suggestion (18-55 and 55-300). I'll get the 18-55 as a kit lens, and the 55-300 separately. Looking around, doing it this way it's cheaper than getting a kit with both lenses - and this way I get the shift focus on the 55-300. I know I asked for more (a prime/macro) but I think I'll settle for this for now and once I've used it for a while I'll have a better idea of what's lacking. As an example, coming from Olympus, things will be different. My Olympus had a real crappy high ISO performance (noticeable noise at 400) and that's partly why I wanted a fast lens - but Pentax has good high ISO as well as shake reduction, so I may not feel the need for something that fast. On the flip side, the Olympus kit lens was pretty much always sharp, whereas with the 18-55, based on the reviews, I'll have to be careful to stop down the aperture to avoid softness. Also, it seems the 18-55's minimum focus distance is pretty good, and is almost a macro lens, so I may not need a separate macro.

I'll still consider your other suggestions.

I do plan to buy at least one old (as in film era), probably prime lens because there are quite a few cheap ones available. I'm thinking of the 50mm prime, but I'll look at the suggestions you've given. At the moment, though, I probably don't want to spend more than $100 on an old lens - perhaps I'll pay more later on.

The 18-135mm I still have to look into. Unless it's significantly better than what I have up there, I probably won't go for it at the moment. It costs more than the two lenses above combined. At the moment I'm not sure how often I'll need to zoom in beyond 135mm with the 55-300mm. If I find I don't do it often, and if I find switching lenses is too much of a pain, or if I feel I really want the weather resistant aspect, I may later sell the kit lenses to get the 18-135. For now, though, the prospect of possibly going all the way to 300mm makes me giddy - I'll see how often I do so, though.

Someone asked what kind of photography I do - bit embarrassed that I didn't mention it to begin with. I don't really have a particular "genre/theme" that I'm married to. I do a fair amount of landscape photography. Other than that, I do whatever seems creative at the time (interesting lines I see walking around, etc). I don't really do street or sports photography, and rarely do portrait.

The other lenses mentioned - well I need to go read up on them now!

Thanks again.
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Consider also the 50-200 WR - I like it better than the 55-300.
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55-300 is the optical quality of the 50-200, if you do not need WR my recommendation for 55-300

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My experience: the 50-200 is good for nothing beyond snapshots. I doubt the 55-300 is any better. The old Tamron Adaptall2 sp60-300 is a much better lens.
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Smc Pentax F 70-210 is a fantastic lens that I used, is better than the Sigma apo70-300 and I used it, the Pentax 55-300 is better than both of them, the Pentax 50-200 I tried and I did not appreciate the severity of 200mm while 55-300 is sharp at 300mm
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QuoteOriginally posted by civiletti Quote
My experience: the 50-200 is good for nothing beyond snapshots.
There must be something wrong with my copy ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
There must be something wrong with my copy ...
Must be.

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Lately we've seen a couple of impressively performing budget tele zooms like the Nikkor AF-S 55-200mm f/4-5.6 IF-ED VR but, unfortunately, the Pentax SMC-DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED is not in this league. The resolution characteristic of the lens is rather mediocre - the image borders at 200mm and more so at 50mm are very soft at large aperture settings.
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QuoteOriginally posted by civiletti Quote
My experience: the 50-200 is good for nothing beyond snapshots. I doubt the 55-300 is any better. The old Tamron Adaptall2 sp60-300 is a much better lens.
As it happens, I have both the Pentax DA-L 55-300 and the Tamron 23A SP 60-300. I've A/B compared the two pretty extensively. The Tamron is an excellent, very sharp lens. But from about 80-300, they're very close to each other in terms of IQ. (The Tamron is sharper below 80mm than the Pentax.) I'd say sharpness is about even between the two from 80-300, and the Pentax has less CA. Not to mention unless you have the spendy PK/A adapter, the Tamron is totally manual everything. One edge the Tamron has is the excellent true macro capability.

Basically, they're both keepers. :-) I use the Pentax 55-300 more, though.

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After reading up, I decided to start with the 18-135 WR lens kit, as the other options seemed like lower quality lenses that I'd need to replace later whereas this can be a good all-in-one walking around or vacation lens even if I upgrade later. Also, I like having the quick-shift feature.

I bought a Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7 to try out a prime and learn about manual focus, and I'm planning to pick up a DA 55-300mm in the upcoming months to get some more range. Eventually, I'm looking for a macro lens (currently leaning towards the Tamron 90mm), a wider prime (probably in the 28-35mm range), and something out of the M42 days to try that out.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dboeren Quote
After reading up, I decided to start with the 18-135 WR lens kit, as the other options seemed like lower quality lenses that I'd need to replace later whereas this can be a good all-in-one walking around or vacation lens even if I upgrade later. Also, I like having the quick-shift feature.

I bought a Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7 to try out a prime and learn about manual focus, and I'm planning to pick up a DA 55-300mm in the upcoming months to get some more range. Eventually, I'm looking for a macro lens (currently leaning towards the Tamron 90mm), a wider prime (probably in the 28-35mm range), and something out of the M42 days to try that out.
Excellent! That's pretty much where I've ended up. (Using a K-x but hoping to upgrade to the K-30.)
  • The 18-135 is on the camera most of the time.
  • I have the DAL 55-300 to go long.
  • I have the Tamron 90 f2.8 for macro and fast at that length.
  • I have a A50 f1.7 for speed in that range (and just because it and the M50 f1.7 are such lovely lenses).
  • To go wide, I ended up w/ the Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6, and I am really happy with it.
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