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03-31-2013, 10:54 AM   #1
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What after DA L 18-55??

As the title says I am looking for replacement of my beloved DA L. I was thinking to pay about 400$ so DA* are not in competition. Maybe DA 16-45?? or DA 18-135 WR?? or DA 17-70?? or something third-party(but not Tamron)?? And yes is there any optical difference between DA L 18-55 and DA 18-55 WR cause I am not interested in metal mount and other not so important differences.EDIT: As I have thought there isnt any optical difference.


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Seeing as that you have 2 medium zooms, the 18-135 or 17-70 does not make a lot of sense unless you sell what you have. I would take the 16-45 from your list of choices if you keep your medium lenses, the 18-135 if you don't - though that is over your budget I believe.
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Sigmas are gone for a long time, I didnt edited my signature LOL. I am just thinking what lens is better (AF, sharpness, CA, etc.).
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Pentax DA 17-70/4 AL (IF) SDM the continuing quality of the sharpness of the full length and width (which is not the case with the sigma)

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Pentax DA 17-70/4 AL (IF) SDM the continuing quality of the sharpness of the full length and width (which is not the case with the sigma)
(možemo mi i po naški hehehe) I was thinking that SDM on the 17-70 isnt reliable, did they do anything about it??
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DA 18-135mm
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QuoteOriginally posted by calculator01 Quote
DA 18-135mm
I sold my DA L 18-55 and bought the DA 18-135 brand new as a replacement for $419 at Pro Digital, so I would say its within your budget. I then purchased the FA 43 and it never leaves my camera. I do however enjoy the 18-135 when I need that focal range and weather resistance. It's such a nice quality piece of glass. And it looks cool too
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16-45 is not suggested for replacing 1855.
or you can keep your 1855 for DA35/2.4
or even FA43. With FA43 you don't need to think about the lens from 35mm - 50mm.

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Maybe sell the 18-55 and get a 16-45 and then add a longer prime lens (maybe a FA50 or in the future something like the DA70/FA77)?
I must say that the pics from the 16-45 is very pleasing and you get the wide end covered with the decent speed of F4 and a fast longer prime should be great for some portraiture and low light.
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16-45 is not suggested for replacing 1855.
or you can keep your 1855 for DA35/2.4
or even FA43. With FA43 you don't need to think about the lens from 35mm - 50mm.
What do you think when you say that 16-45 is not suggested for replacing 18-55????
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bullfrog_1 Quote
(možemo mi i po naški hehehe) I was thinking that SDM on the 17-70 isnt reliable, did they do anything about it??
(we-the private messaging), I am using PentaxDA17-70/4 For 3 years, I bought the "sniffer ad" from a man who bought in usa in B & H a year ago, so it has been used for 4 years in all kinds of conditions and I had no problems, I tried Sigma 17-70/2 0.8 to 4 and the Sigma 18-125/3.5-5.6 DC but it is uneven in quality along the entire length of sharpness, the colors are not so hot / beautiful, I have used a lot more lens and replaces hi in what I have from the signature and know the kind of quality I'm talking about when I recommend this lens, I'm not talking about something that did not use

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The 18-135 grabs my attention as the lens when in a situation where all you can have is a body and one lens and will face a wide range of shots.

I have the DA L versions of the 18-55, 55-300 and 50-200. In general shooting I found myself so often wanting a lens length just to either side of the 55mm point - and changing lens every few minutes impractical. Since I acquired my F35-70, I have found it to be the lens I use most of the time. My only complaint is I would like to find a snap-on petal hood for the F35-70's 49mm filter ring, that will self store on the lens like the bayonet mount hoods on my DA L lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bullfrog_1 Quote
What do you think when you say that 16-45 is not suggested for replacing 18-55????
It is a bold statement to make without support. A working DA 16-45/4 should outperform a DA 18-55. I am very happy with my copy, which I got used almost 4 years ago.

The DA 16-45 has some negatives:
  • Doesn't go past 45 no matter how much you want it to
  • The front seems a little loose (some users call it a wobble) at full extension (16mm)
  • Purple fringing, a bigger issue until software fixes became common
  • Obviously not that fast at f4

I would add that it's bigger than the DA 18-55 but all the potential kit replacements are bigger than the DA 18-55.

It has some strong positives:
  • 16mm!
  • The colors, contrast and microcontrast are really good
  • It comes really close to the DA 15/4 except for flare, sun stars and size
  • Distortion is low and easily correctable, which is useful for panoramas
  • The used price is excellent

The market is right about this lens, it isn't worth its original list price of $400. The new price has varied and will vary more as stocks decline. I think at around $250 used, it's a great value. At $400, I would look at the Tamron 17-50, not sure why you exclude that from the start.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Just1MoreDave Quote
It is a bold statement to make without support. A working DA 16-45/4 should outperform a DA 18-55. I am very happy with my copy, which I got used almost 4 years ago.

The DA 16-45 has some negatives:
  • Doesn't go past 45 no matter how much you want it to
  • The front seems a little loose (some users call it a wobble) at full extension (16mm)
  • Purple fringing, a bigger issue until software fixes became common
  • Obviously not that fast at f4

I would add that it's bigger than the DA 18-55 but all the potential kit replacements are bigger than the DA 18-55.

It has some strong positives:
  • 16mm!
  • The colors, contrast and microcontrast are really good
  • It comes really close to the DA 15/4 except for flare, sun stars and size
  • Distortion is low and easily correctable, which is useful for panoramas
  • The used price is excellent

The market is right about this lens, it isn't worth its original list price of $400. The new price has varied and will vary more as stocks decline. I think at around $250 used, it's a great value. At $400, I would look at the Tamron 17-50, not sure why you exclude that from the start.
I recently got a 16-45 used and am very happy with it so far. I sold my DA L 18-55 with my K-x when I upgraded to the K-30 because I have a 21 mm ltd to cover the wide end and a Sigma 50 mm 1.4 to cover the long end. The 18-55 was basically useless except at 5.6+ throughout its range and even then it was a two steps in optical quality below my other lenses. The 16-45 provides competitive optical results right out the gate from f4 and is a viable alternative if I am going somewhere that is well lit with both wide angle and medium angle shots. It has to be well lit because another negative that you missed, the wide angle "on-board flash shadow" feature.
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I think it will probably be and DA 18-135 (after getting more money) and after some time one DA 15, or DA 16-45 now, I am not sure yet.

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