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04-02-2013, 02:56 AM   #1
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Cosina 19-35 or Tokina 20-35?

Hello,

I am after a little advice.
As a bit of a newbie to Pentax I am looking for a cheap wide angle lens to go with my kit DAL 18-55 and 55-300.

These two lenses have come up 2nd hand locally.

Cosina 19-35mm f/3.5-4.5 for 75 (with 6 months guarantee)



or

Tokina 20-35mm f/3.5-4.5 Version I for 125 (with 6 months guarantee)



Are these two lenses worth this sort of money? About $115 and $190. From what I have read the Tokina has a bit better build quality?

Or would I be bette off spending out on a Pentax DA 35mm? Which is around the 150 mark over in the UK.

Thanks in advanced.

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Steve

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Why are you looking at them, for film photography? The Tokina may or may not be better optically than your 18-55, the Cosina probably isn't. Neither of them actually add anything really new when it comes to focal length or speed compared to your 18-55mm. The Tokina is better built (metal) but got a rotating front element making things like polarizing filters to use.

So what do you miss with what you already got and why are you looking at these two lenses?
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In the past I owned the Phoenix version of the Cosina. It's not that good. Poor build and so-so IQ. I don't know about the Tokina.
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QuoteOriginally posted by skankin_giant Quote
cheap wide angle lens to go with my kit DAL 18-55 and 55-300.
As noted above both of those lenses cover focal lengths you already have in your DAL 18-55 and they are likely to be no better and possibly not as good. Are you looking for something wider? If so you need something in the 10mm to 20mm range.

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The prices seem a little high. The Cosina was available new at about that price point not too many years back. Ditto for the Tokina. As noted above, neither offers any advantage over your kit lens except for backward compatibility to K-mount film cameras.


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Thanks for the replies guys.

Maybe I should stick with what I got for the moment then, I was after something a bit sharper then the kit lenses for my K-r.

I mainly do Landscape/ Architecture (old mine engine houses in Cornwall) so something wide angle was the idea.

I have a couple of Pentax M/A, and Vivitar lenses to play with, cant get on with the Vivitar 400mm f/5.6 though.

Thanks, saved my some cash

Cheers Steve
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QuoteOriginally posted by skankin_giant Quote
Or would I be bette off spending out on a Pentax DA 35mm? Which is around the 150 mark over in the UK.
That's the only option of the three that gives you a significant improvement over the kit lenses in terms of low-light capabilities and DOF control. It's a lovely lens and I'd go for it (again).


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The 35/2.4 you mentioned is good but not really wide but should work as an all-around lens.
Some othe lenses that comes to mind:
Sigma AF 24mm f/2.8 macro - Adds some nice close-focus ability as a bonus but from what I've read it's bad against flare.
Sigma 20/1.8 - Not sharp in the edges until about F5.6 but I like it. Good close focus ability and usable in very dim lighting. Quirky but fun fella!

A couple to save money for:
Samyang/Rokinon 14/2.8 - Manual lens but should prove to be wonderful at everything from concerts and dim lighting to architecture and stars! Should be possible to find pretty cheap used.
Pentax DA 15/4 or Pentax DA 21/3.2 - Both very highly regarded and small but pretty expensive compared to your listed ones.
Sigma 10-20/4-5.6 - Probably the most used ultra wide out there. Price/performance ratio is extremely good. Often on the used market at good prices.

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Thanks for the comments guys, something to look out for.

As I'm only an amateur (not that you could tell ) I don't that the money to spend out on the best equipment, though I have got my eye on a 3 Legged Thing tripod, just sold my Benbo Trekker to go towards it.

This is the kind of things I do, all were taking with the DAL 18-55mm on my K-r.














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Wonderful shots! Most of us are true amateurs too, so we all know your situation. Save money till you stumble on something that really suits you, there are superb deals out there to be had!
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QuoteOriginally posted by skankin_giant Quote
Thanks for the comments guys, something to look out for.

As I'm only an amateur (not that you could tell ) I don't that the money to spend out on the best equipment, though I have got my eye on a 3 Legged Thing tripod, just sold my Benbo Trekker to go towards it.

This is the kind of things I do, all were taking with the DAL 18-55mm on my K-r.














Cheers Steve
It looks like you know what you're doing. The 18-55 is a great lens, stopped down, which matches your style. Look towards getting a DA 15mm, or a Rokinon 14mm, in the future.

(These often go on sale, and they are listed under many brand names. Bower, Samyang, Rokinon, Bell and Howell, Falcon, Vivitar and more)
http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE14M-P-Ultra-Pentax-Black/dp/B003VSGZ4S/ref=s...on+14mm+pentax

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Thanks very much! The A-level comes in handy

Thanks again for the hints and tips, will have a look whats out there and be less hasty.

Cheers, Steve

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