40mm Limited or 40mm XS?

Groove · 04-11-2013, 10:03 AM

Having purchased a K-01 with XS lens, I now have both. I don't really "need" both, so am planning to sell one. Which would you keep and why?
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Last edited by Groove; 04-11-2013 at 10:19 AM.

Biro · 04-11-2013, 10:08 AM - **1 Like**

I read your message but I would hang onto both. If it's just and either-or argument, the 40 Limited wins because of the better build quality and its size works a bit better on other Pentax cameras. But I'd still hang onto the 40 XS just to use on the K-01. I promise you, if you ever sell the K-01, it'll be worth a lot more with the XS attached. Not just because the camera will come with a lens but because that's the combination that will become the collector's item. I bought a K-01 body-only last year because I already had the 40 Limited. I wish I had spent a bit more at the time and got the XS kit.

jimr-pdx · 04-11-2013, 10:14 AM

I'm a big quick-shift fan and have some excellent images from the Limited, so I'd keep that. Trouble is you won't get a lot for the XS right now, and Biro makes a good point. If you're not in need of $120± you might as well keep it in a box for a possible future where its nostalgia value rises.

Parallax · 04-11-2013, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Biro

I read your message but I would hang onto both. If it's just and either-or argument, the 40 Limited wins because of the better build quality and its size works a bit better on other Pentax cameras. But I'd still hang onto the 40 XS just to use on the K-01. I promise you, if you ever sell the K-01, it'll be worth a lot more with the XS attached. Not just because the camera will come with a lens but because that's the combination that will become the collector's item.

Yep. What he said.
If it's a matter of needing the money, that's different; but otherwise, keep them both. I couldn't possibly list all of the different things I've sold over the years and later wished I hadn't. I can't think of a single thing I've kept that I wish I had sold.

Groove · 04-11-2013, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Yep. What he said.
If it's a matter of needing the money, that's different; but otherwise, keep them both. I couldn't possibly list all of the different things I've sold over the years and later wished I hadn't. I can't think of a single thing I've kept that I wish I had sold.

Thanks for the feedback. Good point on future value. I don't really need the $ so I may just put it away in a box.

bdery · 04-11-2013, 10:31 AM

Since you own both, you are in the perfect position to decide which one you prefer... no one can help you better than yourself

**jatrax** · 04-11-2013, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Biro

I read your message but I would hang onto both. If it's just and either-or argument, the 40 Limited wins because of the better build quality and its size works a bit better on other Pentax cameras. But I'd still hang onto the 40 XS just to use on the K-01. I promise you, if you ever sell the K-01, it'll be worth a lot more with the XS attached. Not just because the camera will come with a lens but because that's the combination that will become the collector's item. I bought a K-01 body-only last year because I already had the 40 Limited. I wish I had spent a bit more at the time and got the XS kit.

Agree 100%, I don't have the XS and use the limited 40mm on the k-01 mostly. But if you have both and don't urgently need the cash I would keep both. Put the XS in the box and hang onto it. I'm betting it will be worth a lot more down the road.

Nick Siebers · 04-11-2013, 11:46 AM

I suspect, given the recent flood of cheap K-01 and 40 XS kits, there is a bit of an oversupply of the 40XS right now. It is a good time to buy, not that great a time to sell one. I much prefer the limited for looks and handling, IQ seems a wash, so either could be fine.

Docrwm · 04-11-2013, 12:11 PM

As I don't buy cameras or lenses to collect but to use the argument to keep the K-01 and 40XS together didn't work for me. I sold my XS and kept my Ltd because optically they are roughly the same, the Ltd has much better build quality, is not meaningfully bigger IMHO, and uses bog standard hoods and filters while the 40XS uses a very unusual size - plus its cap is a pain. Selling off my 40XS reduced the cost of my K-01 to $152 all inclusive. I'll use the K-01 and don't expect it to be around for "collectors" oh those many years in the future.

seventysixersfan · 04-11-2013, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

As I don't buy cameras or lenses to collect but to use the argument to keep the K-01 and 40XS together didn't work for me. I sold my XS and kept my Ltd because optically they are roughly the same, the Ltd has much better build quality, is not meaningfully bigger IMHO, and uses bog standard hoods and filters while the 40XS uses a very unusual size - plus its cap is a pain. Selling off my 40XS reduced the cost of my K-01 to $152 all inclusive. I'll use the K-01 and don't expect it to be around for "collectors" oh those many years in the future.

Ditto,I did the same thing as Robert and lowered the total cost of ownership of my K-01-- which helped me to justify getting it (to myself and to the wife) in the first place. I also am not a big collector for the sake of it, and I just didn't see myself ever using the XS when I had my limited lens. I agree that rubber push-in cap is a pain to deal with, worse than the screw on one for the limited version IMHO.

But if you don't need the money right now, then yeah, go ahead and put it away in storage for now.

Docrwm · 04-11-2013, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by seventysixersfan

Ditto,I did the same thing as Robert and lowered the total cost of ownership of my K-01-- which helped me to justify getting it (to myself and to the wife) in the first place. I also am not a big collector for the sake of it, and I just didn't see myself ever using the XS when I had my limited lens. I agree that rubber push-in cap is a pain to deal with, worse than the screw on one for the limited version IMHO.

But if you don't need the money right now, then yeah, go ahead and put it away in storage for now.

Just FYI, I bought a squeeze cap to replace the screw in one for the 40 Ltd and am MUCH happier. I think it was $5 for 2 of them on eBay.

Groove · 04-11-2013, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

Just FYI, I bought a squeeze cap to replace the screw in one for the 40 Ltd and am MUCH happier. I think it was $5 for 2 of them on eBay.

That is a great idea. The screw cap is a real pain.

Docrwm · 04-11-2013, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Groove

That is a great idea. The screw cap is a real pain.

I agree. The other thing that someone suggested is that if you do use the screw in cap put a small rubber band at the base of the threads and it will help keep it and you won't have to turn it as much. Personally, I prefer the squeeze cap. BTW, its a 30mm cap and has only one area to push because its so small (the 49mm and up sizes have 2 areas).

**THoog** · 04-11-2013, 02:10 PM

My biggest gripe with the metal cap on the 40 Ltd was it rubbing against other stuff in my camera bag. I went really cheap and used the top off a Fuji 35mm film canister.

Docrwm · 04-11-2013, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by THoog

My biggest gripe with the metal cap on the 40 Ltd was it rubbing against other stuff in my camera bag. I went really cheap and used the top off a Fuji 35mm film canister.

- that cap will be more and more dear as the days and months go by.

04-11-2013, 10:03 AM	#1
Groove New Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 23	40mm Limited or 40mm XS? Having purchased a K-01 with XS lens, I now have both. I don't really "need" both, so am planning to sell one. Which would you keep and why? _________________ K-5, K-01, Q, KX, MX K50/1.4, M28/2.8, M135/3.5, DA21/3.2LTD, DA40/2.8LTD, DA40/2.8XS, DA18-135/3.5-5.6, DA200/2.8, DFA100/2.8, Q01, Q02 Last edited by Groove; 04-11-2013 at 10:19 AM.*

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04-11-2013, 10:08 AM - 1 Like	#2
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200	I read your message but I would hang onto both. If it's just and either-or argument, the 40 Limited wins because of the better build quality and its size works a bit better on other Pentax cameras. But I'd still hang onto the 40 XS just to use on the K-01. I promise you, if you ever sell the K-01, it'll be worth a lot more with the XS attached. Not just because the camera will come with a lens but because that's the combination that will become the collector's item. I bought a K-01 body-only last year because I already had the 40 Limited. I wish I had spent a bit more at the time and got the XS kit.

04-11-2013, 10:14 AM	#3
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	I'm a big quick-shift fan and have some excellent images from the Limited, so I'd keep that. Trouble is you won't get a lot for the XS right now, and Biro makes a good point. If you're not in need of $120± you might as well keep it in a box for a possible future where its nostalgia value rises.

04-11-2013, 10:18 AM	#4
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Biro I read your message but I would hang onto both. If it's just and either-or argument, the 40 Limited wins because of the better build quality and its size works a bit better on other Pentax cameras. But I'd still hang onto the 40 XS just to use on the K-01. I promise you, if you ever sell the K-01, it'll be worth a lot more with the XS attached. Not just because the camera will come with a lens but because that's the combination that will become the collector's item. Yep. What he said. If it's a matter of needing the money, that's different; but otherwise, keep them both. I couldn't possibly list all of the different things I've sold over the years and later wished I hadn't. I can't think of a single thing I've kept that I wish I had sold.

04-11-2013, 10:20 AM	#5
Groove New Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 23 Original Poster	Originally posted by Parallax Yep. What he said. If it's a matter of needing the money, that's different; but otherwise, keep them both. I couldn't possibly list all of the different things I've sold over the years and later wished I hadn't. I can't think of a single thing I've kept that I wish I had sold. Thanks for the feedback. Good point on future value. I don't really need the $ so I may just put it away in a box.

04-11-2013, 10:31 AM	#6
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Since you own both, you are in the perfect position to decide which one you prefer... no one can help you better than yourself

04-11-2013, 11:15 AM	#7
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Biro I read your message but I would hang onto both. If it's just and either-or argument, the 40 Limited wins because of the better build quality and its size works a bit better on other Pentax cameras. But I'd still hang onto the 40 XS just to use on the K-01. I promise you, if you ever sell the K-01, it'll be worth a lot more with the XS attached. Not just because the camera will come with a lens but because that's the combination that will become the collector's item. I bought a K-01 body-only last year because I already had the 40 Limited. I wish I had spent a bit more at the time and got the XS kit. Agree 100%, I don't have the XS and use the limited 40mm on the k-01 mostly. But if you have both and don't urgently need the cash I would keep both. Put the XS in the box and hang onto it. I'm betting it will be worth a lot more down the road.

04-11-2013, 11:46 AM	#8
Nick Siebers Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,165	I suspect, given the recent flood of cheap K-01 and 40 XS kits, there is a bit of an oversupply of the 40XS right now. It is a good time to buy, not that great a time to sell one. I much prefer the limited for looks and handling, IQ seems a wash, so either could be fine.

04-11-2013, 12:11 PM	#9
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	As I don't buy cameras or lenses to collect but to use the argument to keep the K-01 and 40XS together didn't work for me. I sold my XS and kept my Ltd because optically they are roughly the same, the Ltd has much better build quality, is not meaningfully bigger IMHO, and uses bog standard hoods and filters while the 40XS uses a very unusual size - plus its cap is a pain. Selling off my 40XS reduced the cost of my K-01 to $152 all inclusive. I'll use the K-01 and don't expect it to be around for "collectors" oh those many years in the future.

04-11-2013, 01:03 PM	#10
seventysixersfan Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by Docrwm As I don't buy cameras or lenses to collect but to use the argument to keep the K-01 and 40XS together didn't work for me. I sold my XS and kept my Ltd because optically they are roughly the same, the Ltd has much better build quality, is not meaningfully bigger IMHO, and uses bog standard hoods and filters while the 40XS uses a very unusual size - plus its cap is a pain. Selling off my 40XS reduced the cost of my K-01 to $152 all inclusive. I'll use the K-01 and don't expect it to be around for "collectors" oh those many years in the future. Ditto,I did the same thing as Robert and lowered the total cost of ownership of my K-01-- which helped me to justify getting it (to myself and to the wife) in the first place. I also am not a big collector for the sake of it, and I just didn't see myself ever using the XS when I had my limited lens. I agree that rubber push-in cap is a pain to deal with, worse than the screw on one for the limited version IMHO. But if you don't need the money right now, then yeah, go ahead and put it away in storage for now.

04-11-2013, 01:33 PM	#11
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by seventysixersfan Ditto,I did the same thing as Robert and lowered the total cost of ownership of my K-01-- which helped me to justify getting it (to myself and to the wife) in the first place. I also am not a big collector for the sake of it, and I just didn't see myself ever using the XS when I had my limited lens. I agree that rubber push-in cap is a pain to deal with, worse than the screw on one for the limited version IMHO. But if you don't need the money right now, then yeah, go ahead and put it away in storage for now. Just FYI, I bought a squeeze cap to replace the screw in one for the 40 Ltd and am MUCH happier. I think it was $5 for 2 of them on eBay.

04-11-2013, 01:43 PM	#12
Groove New Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 23 Original Poster	Originally posted by Docrwm Just FYI, I bought a squeeze cap to replace the screw in one for the 40 Ltd and am MUCH happier. I think it was $5 for 2 of them on eBay. That is a great idea. The screw cap is a real pain.

04-11-2013, 01:45 PM	#13
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by Groove That is a great idea. The screw cap is a real pain. I agree. The other thing that someone suggested is that if you do use the screw in cap put a small rubber band at the base of the threads and it will help keep it and you won't have to turn it as much. Personally, I prefer the squeeze cap. BTW, its a 30mm cap and has only one area to push because its so small (the 49mm and up sizes have 2 areas).

04-11-2013, 02:10 PM	#14
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	My biggest gripe with the metal cap on the 40 Ltd was it rubbing against other stuff in my camera bag. I went really cheap and used the top off a Fuji 35mm film canister.

04-11-2013, 04:09 PM	#15
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by THoog My biggest gripe with the metal cap on the 40 Ltd was it rubbing against other stuff in my camera bag. I went really cheap and used the top off a Fuji 35mm film canister. - that cap will be more and more dear as the days and months go by.