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05-15-2013, 06:59 AM   #1
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Recommendations for 500 budget?

Hello. I've had a Pentax K7 for about two years now and I really feel that to get the most out of my camera, I need to move beyond the kit lenses (18-55 WR and 50-200 WR). I have two manual focus lenses that I use: a Pentax-A 28mm 2.8 and a Pentax-A 50mm 1.7. I really like the 50mm for the large aperture and the detail I can get out of it, but the focal length is a little long. The 28mm is better in this respect but the manual focus and lack of automatic detection for the image stability can be quite time consuming, and is particularly difficult when I give the camera to someone else for them to use. Furthermore, I suspect that the lens wasn't kept in the best conditions so I'm not too impressed with the clarity (although this could also be due to focussing issues).

I have around a 500 budget now to get myself some lenses, so I was wondering what you guys would recommend for someone like me. I'm pretty familiar with the workings of my camera but I'm still quite new to photography. The camera will normally be used for holidays and trips, so there'll be a range of portrait/architecture/landscapes. Long focal ranges aren't really my cup of tea but it would be nice to have some flexibility. Around 20-25mm seems ideal. At first I was looking at primes but maybe a good quality zoom lens would be better considering my budget?

I appreciate any comments in advance. Thanks.

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I would try getting a Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5 and a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 both. You might be able to pull them both off in the used market with your budget.
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I would try getting a Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5 and a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 both. You might be able to pull them both off in the used market with your budget.
Thanks for the recommendations. I'm certainly considering buying used to save me money so currently I'm looking at a K5 plus Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 that I may be able to get for around 500; maybe I could even sell the K7 and upgrade to a K5 while I'm at it with very little if any loss.

Would you say these lenses will be quite a step up from the kit lenses?
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When I switched to digital in 2005, my first 3 lenses were the sigma 10-20, sigma 17-70 and pentax 50-200

I'm personally a bigger fan of sigma over tamron, but that's a debate that could go on for weeks.

You don't need the HSM versions, so the 10-20 and 17-70 non hsm should be pretty doable with your budget

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QuoteOriginally posted by und Quote
I'm looking at a K5 plus Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 that I may be able to get for around 500; maybe I could even sell the K7 and upgrade to a K5 while I'm at it with very little if any loss.

Would you say these lenses will be quite a step up from the kit lenses?
Welcome to the forum!

I don't have the 10-24 (since I use a DA 15/4 instead),
but the Tamron 17-50/2.8 is an excellent lens, in general,
with some of the best resolution available, especially at 24mm.
Some copies may front- or back-focus.
You can correct for this in the K-5 (or K-7) if it's not too bad,
or another option is to use the contrast-detect AF in live view
for critical focusing (e.g., f/2.8).
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With your budget I would buy DA*16-50 2.8.
It's a beutiful zoom lens with WR and it should be the best you can get for your budget.
They usualy go for 600$ in market place.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Dario79 Quote
With your budget I would buy DA*16-50 2.8.
It's a beutiful zoom lens with WR and it should be the best you can get for your budget.
They usualy go for 600$ in market place.
I'm not sure about that price, there's one in the marketplace now for $725 with replies of interest. I saw a $650 one a while back and inquired about it but it was sold to a local buyer. I'd love to find one for $600 but haven't seen any that cheap yet.

A Pentax 16-45mm f/4 is a possible budget alternative, those seem to be around $225 USD and that will leave some cash left over if you want to try to find a used ultrawide zoom.
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The Sigma 28mm f1.8 and the 30mm variants are possibly worth looking at. A bit tight compared with the wide angle lenses you're considering but they can be had for less.

16-45 performs well enough, too. I don't know if it's in the 17-50 league, though.

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QuoteOriginally posted by und Quote
Thanks for the recommendations. I'm certainly considering buying used to save me money so currently I'm looking at a K5 plus Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 that I may be able to get for around 500; maybe I could even sell the K7 and upgrade to a K5 while I'm at it with very little if any loss.

Would you say these lenses will be quite a step up from the kit lenses?
Absolutely an upgrade. Good wide open, really sharp at f/5.6.
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With your budget I would buy DA*16-50 2.8.
It's a beutiful zoom lens with WR and it should be the best you can get for your budget.
They usualy go for 600$ in market place.
That's very expensive but I will look at the DA 16-45 4.0 as an alternative.

If I were to instead get some primes (eg. 21mm + 40mm) would that be a bad idea? I like the idea of using my feet instead of a zoom but at the same time changing lenses all the time will be quite annoying.
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Given your preferences I'd go with the Tamron 17-50. For what you've indicated you can't miss with that lens.
For myself, my stock answer it, for two lenses to start with, DA 18-135 and and DA 35 2.4. The DA 18-135 isn't Tamron sharp, but it's much better than the kit lens and is far more flexible. The 35 gives you a good fast prime. My first choice for a 20-25 lens would be my 21 limited. I even use 21limited as my nickname on a few forums. It resembles me in that it's not the sharpest lens in the bag, but sometimes it takes a really great picture. But that wouldn't get you as much a the 17-50 in terms of general usefulness.
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Given your preferences I'd go with the Tamron 17-50. For what you've indicated you can't miss with that lens.
For myself, my stock answer it, for two lenses to start with, DA 18-135 and and DA 35 2.4. The DA 18-135 isn't Tamron sharp, but it's much better than the kit lens and is far more flexible. The 35 gives you a good fast prime. My first choice for a 20-25 lens would be my 21 limited. I even use 21limited as my nickname on a few forums. It resembles me in that it's not the sharpest lens in the bag, but sometimes it takes a really great picture. But that wouldn't get you as much a the 17-50 in terms of general usefulness.
Too bad I missed those 18-135 mm WRs on that famous auction site selling for 10 each.
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Hello

My advice: get the Tamron 28-75 2.8 (I’m delighted with mine)
Keep the kit lens for the bellow 28mm photos (independent of the quality, it’s just 3.5 from 18mm to 24mm or so) and the 50-200 for the other extreme part.
With the saved money, save it for the future or enjoy it, you will deserve to do so.

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05-16-2013, 01:38 PM   #14
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Rough total is 560 quid... but that's a pretty decent set of kit

Maybe leave out the 35mm DA to bring back below budget if needed

You've got 17-300mm pretty much covered with this. With the minor 5mm gap at 50mm - hardly a problem.

Then all you do is add more quality at the focal lengths you like best with limiteds or similar...
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I would think something in the 10/12-20/24mm range would be appropriate. Keep your existing lenses for the moment and add better and wider lenses at the bottom end first. Travelling in cities especially my sigma 10-20 gets a ton of work, I would say 60% of all my shots.

For landscapes I actually prefer something in the 35mm range, but since you generally want great DOF, there is no need to replace your kit lens unless you are unhappy with the IQ
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