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05-16-2013, 09:58 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by dboeren Quote
You've got a 40mm you like. You've got a 21mm you like. 35mm I think is too close to 40mm, so I'd go for the 31mm. Higher quality than the 35mm and it nicely splits the gap you have. Simple reasoning, but there you go
I checked the price of the 31mm and holy smokes.

It fits right in there though, splitting the difference quite nicely. And its fast. I don't know why Pentax wants to screw everyone over on a fast prime lens.

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You might consider a second-hand FA 28 or F28 (both f/2.8) to fill the gap between DA 21 and DA 40. Or if you want speed, find a used Sigma 30 f/1.4
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You might consider a second-hand FA 28 or F28 (both f/2.8) to fill the gap between DA 21 and DA 40. Or if you want speed, find a used Sigma 30 f/1.4

I am going sharp over speed but I would like both.... there are several options out there. Right now I have enough to keep me busy for a while. But a guy can dream can't he?

I don't know what I will do in the end... but odds are it will include buying more lenses (later on).
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I never thought I would need a 35mm until I got my hands on the Samyang 35 f1/4. I love the zoom range of my Sigma 20-40 f/2.8 and its amazing bokeh, but for sheer sharpness, I can't fathom living without the Samyang now. This is in addition to keeping my Sigma zoom.

Check out the newest pictures on my Flickr to see what the lens is capable of wide open and stopped down to f/1.8.

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the Tamron 70-200 "macro" strictly speaking isnt a true macro lens. It can only do a 1:3 magnification.

Still that's an excellent closeup, I guess maybe taken @200mm close to the MFD of about 1metre. (maybe a bit of a crop too, about 1/2 linear dimension?)
You are correct. I took the above photo quite a while back actually. I was only taking pictures about 4 months when I shot that spider. My whole approach to learning photography has been pretty in depth but for a while now I have been absolutely overwhelmed with life stuff so I haven't been shooting like I would like.

I didn't even own lightroom or know how to use it when I took that picture. I still have the RAW image saved so I might go back to that set and try to pick out some more and try to do something more. If I recall I shot that one using F18 with single point focus at 200mm. I just rapid fired shots and got more than a dozen because the action was just going so fast.

And yes, I did crop that image quite a bit actually

For some reason I like to tell the stories behind how I get some of my shots! LOL!!!!
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For some reason I like to tell the stories behind how I get some of my shots! LOL!!!!
And some of us are glad you do. I'm always interested in the how/why of a shot. When I see something I really like, I check the EXIF (assuming it is included). I first think, hmmm.....I bet they shot this at so and so, and then check to see how close I am. Sometimes, not very close at all in guessing.
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You should get the FA31mm first!

You need the 35mm Ltd. because:
- Pentax Ricoh Imaging Corporation needs the sale!
- Your collection will never be complete without it!
- There are coins waiting to get on a picture!
- It's just such a nice lens, why wouldn't you?
- Think off the picture you can make with all your little darlings in it!
- When the DA Ltd. zoomlens arrivés you have to buy that!
- You probably own all 37 albums off Status Quo, even if you didn't like the music after the first 20 albums!
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For me, the 35 macro is really only necessary if you intend to do copy work. It's short enough to use on a copy stand , but that work is almost replaced by scanners, except for really big items

Other wise 35mm yields too short a working distance, I pref a 100mm macro for general work

But the real answer is, "of course you do, it's there and you don't have it". Why do you think they call it LBA in the first place

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I feel I should add that the 35 ltd is a superb lens, beautifully sharp, amazing contrast and with the ability to take photos that have a touch of magic, if used properly.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
Other wise 35mm yields too short a working distance
A point that needs to be made over and over and over and over...



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I really like the idea of the 31mm for my bag but geez that thing is expensive.
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QuoteOriginally posted by alamo5000 Quote
I really like the idea of the 31mm for my bag but geez that thing is expensive.
In that case, you really should buy it for your camera, not your bag. It's expensive as bag-stuffers go, but fully worth it's price when mounted on a camera
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
For me, the 35 macro is really only necessary if you intend to do copy work.
Other wise 35mm yields too short a working distance
QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
A point that needs to be made over and over and over and over...
There's more to macro than just the long view.

That 's why they made those 50mm macros for FF,
and that's why Pentax/Tokina make the 35 for APS-C.

Personally, I've found it to be a very useful lens
over the whole range from 1:1 to infinity.
As usual, of course, YMMV.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
whole range from 1:1 to infinity.
...so, just out of curiosity, what is your working distance at 1:1? I know what it is for my 50mm macro and it is not enough from the perspective of providing adequate lighting (the lens and camera shadow the subject). Of course, I could invest in ring flash I guess.




To be fair, the lens has the hood mounted. The front element is about 3cm deeper than the lip of the hood. In an case, the working distance for 35mm focal length would be somewhat less.


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...so, just out of curiosity, what is your working distance at 1:1?
Certainly close enough that the hood may need to be retracted a little.
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