Originally posted by TOUGEFC For starters Norm , I never said "more backwards compatible"
I said -
So let me summarise it for you the "better backwards comapatibility" of Nikon vs Pentax.
Nikon F mount came out in 1959 (Pentax k mount came out in 1975 before that it was all screwmount so you need adapters)
In 1977 they added Auto Indexing (AI) an important change in the way the camera gets the aperture value from the lens. Which means its no longer necessary to move the aperture ring back and forth to transfer the lens speed to the camera body. Converting a pre-1977 lens to AI costs around $25 or you can do it yourself.
So every lens made since 1977 works perfectly, complete with color matrix metering
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Pentax I believe is limited to center weighted metering on old glass and you need to use stop down metering if you change the aperture!
And when it comes to manual focusing these older lenses on my Nikon body I can use all 51 glorious focus points (even tells me if my focus is forwards or backwards of subject).
On Pentax? Well your stuck to the center point only and has no telling if your focus is front/back of subject
That basicly sums up why I think Nikon has a
better backwards compatible system than Pentax.
Oh and there are more Nikon lenses on the market than Pentax, so that gives you the "more" part
I got two words for you... "shake reduction" in all lenses back to the 60's.... (burn.. high fives all around)..... oh, that reads, shoot any ancient lens including screw mounts with 2 extra f-stops.. how did the great Nikon promoting dude miss that one in his balanced summary of events. That's like a major faux pas, and turns the table a huge amount in terms of utility, i'd say it puts Pentax out in front, especially for those of us who prefer manual to auto-focus in many situations. Turns out he's just another Nikon propagandist who hasn't used a Pentax system enough to even remember it has built in shake reduction.
But being more realistic here and moving away from the trash talk...
Those are all good points, except most of them I don't really care about. And that's what I've always thought about Nikon, they have piles of great features, that I don't care about. My mom always owned Nikon, and i have to admit , they're a really good camera for your mom, or anyone that needs lots of hand holding. My favourite Nikon moment was when my buddy brought in 6 frames per minute film camera (F4?) and showed me these shots of his brother bungie jumping. Coming straight down at the camera. It was impressive, but it was also a gimmick shot , at least to me. My buddy wanted that feature, but he never really used it much, he was a wedding and event photographer and shooting 6 frames per minute with film would lead to huge processing costs, just like shooting burst mode now leads to huge amounts of time spent at the computer sorting through images. And that's what I think of things like 51 focus points and things like that, it's a great gimmick, and it might actually help in some situations, but it's symptomatic of Nikon's philosophy of putting gimmickry over substance. I also find Nikon users seem to be the ones more impressed by gimmicky. Not always, I also know some really serious guys who shoot Nikon, but I bet 90% of Nikon users buy for cool features that are not a part of their core photographic practice. Nikon make great cameras, but I've met more Nikon users who bought the camera for features they never use than perhaps any other brand. SO when you see stuff like 51 focus points, with Nikon, you always wonder, is 51 focus points technically efficient, or did they just bump it up to see how how many they could incorporate for marketing purposes? That's always a question with new Nikon features. Some Nikon cameras have 51 focus points, some have 11. Even some Nikon shooters don't seem to need more than 11. Let's not focus on the sensational.
That's IMHO a sensible response to a pretty biased post... although the first one half is more fun it's more in the spirit of the post I was responding too... I'm sure some Nikon users will find it offensive, like all the really serious guys who shoot Nikon equipment. Because there are many very serious Nikon shooters who buy their cameras for features that are essential to their core photographic practice, more than there are Pentax shooters of the same mindset. They find majority of Nikon shooters to be as much an embarrassment as I do.
My latest Nikon moment was a friend with a Nikon 3200 flipping though the in camera help, thing to figure out how to bracket exposures. I don't know if the D3200 doesn't support bracketing or she just couldn't find it... but she missed 15 minutes of a great sunset trying to read a manual off the back of her camera. It's a feature she bought the camera for, but she would have been better off if the manual was home in her drawer in the end. Something cool is not always something good.