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03-15-2008, 05:24 PM   #1
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Tired of kit lens, almost ready to invest.

Hello,
So i have been playing around with my GX-10 for quite some time now and I am starting to feel a little frustrated.

Now I also finally have a little bit of money so I think that it is time for an investment.
I am a beginner in photography so i have been experiencing as much as possible in order to determine what kind of lens would make me happy next. So I have been using the whole range of the lens, from 18mm all the way up.

Two main things frustrated me. First, i felt like 18mm wasn't wide enough. I want to take some architactural photography and some indoors photography as well. So i have been considering lenses like the sigma 10-20mm or the DA 12-24 (right now sigma wins this one, just cheaper). I haven't really looked in detail at the fisheyes yet, though they look like fun. I just know that the 10-17mm is a bit too expensive for me right now.

The second thing that i had problem with was the speed of the lens on the long end of the zoom. 5.6 is just a bit limiting. So to have fun with the 50mm zone and do a bit of portrait i have been looking at the FA 50mm f1.4 but also some older lenses like the SMC 50mm f.17 or the asahi 50mm f1.4 or even the more expensive Nokton 58mm.

Right now i think that it is going to be one of the older lenses, just because I can get them for not much, but would you advise otherwise? is there any other lens i should consider?

Thank you for your expertise!

03-15-2008, 05:56 PM   #2
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QuoteOriginally posted by deudeu Quote
Hello,
So i have been playing around with my GX-10 for quite some time now and I am starting to feel a little frustrated.

Now I also finally have a little bit of money so I think that it is time for an investment.
I am a beginner in photography so i have been experiencing as much as possible in order to determine what kind of lens would make me happy next. So I have been using the whole range of the lens, from 18mm all the way up.

Two main things frustrated me. First, i felt like 18mm wasn't wide enough. I want to take some architactural photography and some indoors photography as well. So i have been considering lenses like the sigma 10-20mm or the DA 12-24 (right now sigma wins this one, just cheaper). I haven't really looked in detail at the fisheyes yet, though they look like fun. I just know that the 10-17mm is a bit too expensive for me right now.

The second thing that i had problem with was the speed of the lens on the long end of the zoom. 5.6 is just a bit limiting. So to have fun with the 50mm zone and do a bit of portrait i have been looking at the FA 50mm f1.4 but also some older lenses like the SMC 50mm f.17 or the asahi 50mm f1.4 or even the more expensive Nokton 58mm.

Right now i think that it is going to be one of the older lenses, just because I can get them for not much, but would you advise otherwise? is there any other lens i should consider?

Thank you for your expertise!
Well in terms of wide angle, the DA12-24 and sigma 10-20 both have proven nice performers, so has the 10-17FE, The latter is the only pentax zoom I owned and one I really liked. but you need to make up with your self whether you like or dislike the fisheye effect?

On the 50mm, you havea variety of options... personally I have not been impressed with the Voigtlander and actually prefer the renderings from the Pentax 50mm options over both the voigtlander Nokton 58/1.4 and Zeiss 50/1.4, the Pentax 50/1.4 is IMHO one of the best 50mm standard lenses from a rendering point of view.
A big step up in IQ would be to go with the FA43ltd.

Just my 2 cents
03-15-2008, 05:59 PM   #3
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Hi deudeu

Try these links below, which should give you a fair indication of what the Sigma 10-20mm can achieve. Use the magnification button at the top left of the first image to view the photograph in all it's glory:

gothic symmetry on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Emerald Pond on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

photoSIG Morning

photoSIG » Dutch winterscene

There are literally thousands of images taken with the Sigma on the Flickr site.......enjoy !

photoSIG Lens: sigma 10-20

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03-15-2008, 06:10 PM   #4
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QuoteOriginally posted by Duplo Quote
but you need to make up with your self whether you like or dislike the fisheye effect?
I am liking the fisheye effect more and more these days!

QuoteOriginally posted by Duplo Quote
A big step up in IQ would be to go with the FA43ltd.

Just my 2 cents
Yeah... Should have considered this one. How is the bokeh on it?


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03-15-2008, 06:13 PM   #5
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Hi deudeu

Try these links below, which should give you a fair indication of what the Sigma 10-20mm can achieve. Use the magnification button at the top left of the first image to view the photograph in all it's glory:

gothic symmetry on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Emerald Pond on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

There are literally thousands of images taken with the Sigma on the Flickr site.......enjoy !

photoSIG Lens: sigma 10-20

Best regards
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I love your shots. My mind was made on the sigma 10-20 until i saw some portrait shots with some of those fast normal lenses and the price they cost. I think that this one will make it my collection someday. The question is just how fast...
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Hi deudeu

Re your comment:

QuoteQuote:
I love your shots.
Er, not my shots I'm afraid ! Far from it in fact, but these images simply caught my eye and I thought they might appeal to you.......

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03-15-2008, 06:27 PM   #7
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QuoteOriginally posted by deudeu Quote
First, i felt like 18mm wasn't wide enough. I want to take some architactural photography and some indoors photography as well. So i have been considering lenses like the sigma 10-20mm or the DA 12-24 (right now sigma wins this one, just cheaper). I haven't really looked in detail at the fisheyes yet, though they look like fun. I just know that the 10-17mm is a bit too expensive for me right now.
Well, that's three different things you're talking about. For architecture you want a lens that's good from centre out to the edges with little variation, and that has minimal distortion or at least distortion you can easily correct. For this I got the 16-45mm since it's very good, inexpensive and doubles as my walk-around lens.

Extreme wide angle down to 10mm will do odd distortion things but can be used creatively. People sing the praises of the Sigma 10-20mm. Even odder will be a fish-eye which I see as a "once in a while" kind of lens. They are fun but to buy one as your second lens seems too limiting. Remember that you can take a rectilinear image and make it all bug-eyed in software but it's a lot harder to go the other way and preserve IQ. (Not impossible.. but pretty difficult to visualise in the viewfinder!)

For indoors photography none of these are fast so you will definitely need a tripod. If you don't want to carry one around or need to capture moving targets (eg. people) then a faster lens will be needed.

QuoteOriginally posted by deudeu Quote
The second thing that i had problem with was the speed of the lens on the long end of the zoom. 5.6 is just a bit limiting. So to have fun with the 50mm zone and do a bit of portrait i have been looking at the FA 50mm f1.4 but also some older lenses like the SMC 50mm f.17 or the asahi 50mm f1.4 or even the more expensive Nokton 58mm.
You can buy manual focus 50mm lenses here on the forum for reasonable prices... outstanding prices when you see what the lenses can do. The FA is also an excellent deal even brand new, as any reviewer would say. Personally I prefer something wider so that group portraits or shots in tight quarters (most rooms) are possible. I couldn't afford the 31mm so got the 43mm, which gives me some small width advantage over a 50.

It's a lot more expensive, though it's a limited -- which really means something once you've tried one.
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I have just begun this journey also, but am a step or two ahead of you. Below you can see where I am as of now. Let me share with you why I did what I did. I have a limited budget and money is an issue. My camera came with the DA 18-55 kit lens. I shoot everything with a bit of an emphasis on scenery. So I wanted width first. I decided on the fish eye because when used correctly it gives great wide shots with very little distortion. The fish eye effect can be used if wanted and cropped when not wanted. Still learning with this lens as I consider it my most complex.

Then I wanted distance. Money influenced me and I went with the Tamron. Very nice reach for low cost. It has it's limitations but I like it and am willing to work with the limitations to get that great range.

Next I wanted speed. I do shoot a lot of low light stuff, and cost being an issue the FA 50/ 1.4 is , to me , a no brainer.

Next will be high quality. Perhaps a limited in the 70mm range. But that is serious bucks!

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There we go, I spent my money. Not much of it since i settled for a SMC Pentax M 50mm f1.7 which cost me about $65 including shipping.
I hope it is the right choice, but the reviews on the lens database are good... for the price i figured i couldn't really go wrong!
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QuoteOriginally posted by deudeu Quote
Not much of it since i settled for a SMC Pentax M 50mm f1.7 which cost me about $65 including shipping. I hope it is the right choice, but the reviews on the lens database are good... for the price i figured i couldn't really go wrong!
It is much faster than the kit lens in the wide end. Works as a moderate telephoto. I don't think you will regret it -- have fun!
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