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topace · 07-04-2013, 04:00 AM

Inside the current range of limited primes, All that's missing is an FA limited style between 55 and 60 at f/1.8 or faster. But most people would probably just get the DA *55/1.4 instead.

Outside those ranges, however, there's room for interesting lenses. Something between 120-150 and 2.4 or faster would probably sell. As would an FF capable ultrawide (somewhere around 17 f/2.4 perhaps).

bdery · 07-04-2013, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by tclausen

Not the OP, but I'd really really like to see an FA Limited 135/2.0 (note, FA - as I want to sidestep your APS-49mm-rule) or faster. Or a DA Limited 135/2.0, just to violate the rule. Either way, Pentax is doing quite nicely in the shorter end of the focal length spectrum, but the jump in primes from the 77mm FA Limited to the DA*200/2.8 is rather brutal.....

There's the 50-135, not a prime but with IQ to rival any prime.

Originally posted by jaeaetee

I think there is a place for a fast APS-C 24-28mm lens, preferably an affordable one.

We're still discussing limiteds?

Originally posted by jaeaetee

there's the 21mm limited, which is only f/3.2 and slightly too wide, maybe

Take a step forward and you're set.

Originally posted by jaeaetee

Sigma has 20, 24 and 28mm f/1.8 lenses, which all have crappy corner sharpness. Same story with the 30mm f/1.4.

Because they are pushing the apertures to get a wide maximum.

tclausen · 07-04-2013, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by bdery

There's the 50-135, not a prime but with IQ to rival any prime.

Oh, I know that. But, I am sure that you agree, the 50-135 does not rival the compactness of any prime, let alone of a limited prime

bdery · 07-04-2013, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by tclausen

Oh, I know that. But, I am sure that you agree, the 50-135 does not rival the compactness of any prime, let alone of a limited prime

True. The DFA macro WR is probably the closest then. I'd sure love to see a 135 prime (or even a 150, Pentax has nice designs for these two FL already). On APS-C 150 actually makes more sense, I think. I've used 100, 120, 135 and 150mm primes, and the 135 was the least comfortable to me. 100, 150 and 120 (in that order) felt better.

tclausen · 07-04-2013, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by bdery

True. The DFA macro WR is probably the closest then. I'd sure love to see a 135 prime (or even a 150, Pentax has nice designs for these two FL already). On APS-C 150 actually makes more sense, I think. I've used 100, 120, 135 and 150mm primes, and the 135 was the least comfortable to me. 100, 150 and 120 (in that order) felt better.

Well, if Ricoh releases any limited in the 100-150 range, then I'd be excited. I'd hope that they'd release a "quirky" focal length, though, like an 144mm/1.8 - just because that's what the Limiteds should be ....

bdery · 07-04-2013, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by tclausen

I'd hope that they'd release a "quirky" focal length, though, like an 144mm/1.8 - just because that's what the Limiteds should be

f1.8 is unlikely, but anything f2.8 in that range, with a 49mm thread, would make sense.

The M120 f2.8 has a 49mm thread, they could re-use that design. their 150 also, but it's f3.5. I agree that a weird focal length would add some fun to it, but the DA limiteds are not that quirky : 15, 21 (maybe the oddball here but it's not that weird), 35, 40, 70. And 100 if you want...

jcdoss · 07-04-2013, 01:29 PM

How about 141mm, f/3.3? That'd be cool. No, maybe it wouldn't. But I agree, something in the circa 135mm range would be pretty nice to round out the collection. The 100mm, 120mm, and 150mm older lenses were quite small.

**Pål Jensen** · 07-04-2013, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by tclausen

Not the OP, but I'd really really like to see an FA Limited 135/2.0 (note, FA - as I want to sidestep your APS-49mm-rule) or faster. Or a DA Limited 135/2.0, just to violate the rule. Either way, Pentax is doing quite nicely in the shorter end of the focal length spectrum, but the jump in primes from the 77mm FA Limited to the DA*200/2.8 is rather brutal.....

Pentax designed an FA* 150/2 but it never saw the light of day....

ignmar · 07-04-2013, 08:29 PM

Some fast DA prime lenses like 85mm F1.2 or F1.4 and DA zoom 70 - 200 F2.8. that will be nice.

carrrlangas · 07-04-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by ignmar

Some fast DA prime lenses like 85mm F1.2 or F1.4 and DA zoom 70 - 200 F2.8. that will be nice.

those already exist as 24x36mm equivalents: DA*55/1.4 and DA*50-135/2.8

ignmar · 07-04-2013, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by carrrlangas

those already exist as 24x36mm equivalents: DA*55/1.4 and DA*50-135/2.8

ups my bad, i forgot about digital pentax is crop sensor. i'm just went digital hehehe

tclausen · 07-05-2013, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

Pentax designed an FA* 150/2 but it never saw the light of day....

Well, Pål, now would be an excellent time for them to drag that particular rabbit out of the hat, so as to amaze appease the audience

Did any photos of the prototype of that 150/2 ever escape to the Internet?

Clavius · 07-05-2013, 12:38 AM

Reading quickly through this thread, it appears that there are exactly as many whishes as there are people.

Pentax likes to work together with Tokina, and shopping around on their site I see a lot of oppertunities.

Offtopic: Wow, there is an AF 300mm mirrorlens for M4/3 on the Tokina site. That's cool. Useless, but cool.

carrrlangas · 07-05-2013, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Useless, but cool.

Unless on a tripod... Which defeats the purpose of a mirrorles? ok, I get it. But options are always good.

**Aristophanes** · 07-05-2013, 10:51 AM

Pentax is missing a WR wide prime, likely a Limited. We have the DA*55 and the 100 Macro WR, but nothing wider that is WR.

Perhaps their wide zoom may be the answer or take the 16-50 at its widest, but no wide WR is an issue and likely has a bearing on FF development.

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07-04-2013, 04:00 AM	#16
topace Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 198	Inside the current range of limited primes, All that's missing is an FA limited style between 55 and 60 at f/1.8 or faster. But most people would probably just get the DA *55/1.4 instead. Outside those ranges, however, there's room for interesting lenses. Something between 120-150 and 2.4 or faster would probably sell. As would an FF capable ultrawide (somewhere around 17 f/2.4 perhaps).

07-04-2013, 05:21 AM	#17
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,363	Originally posted by tclausen Not the OP, but I'd really really like to see an FA Limited 135/2.0 (note, FA - as I want to sidestep your APS-49mm-rule) or faster. Or a DA Limited 135/2.0, just to violate the rule. Either way, Pentax is doing quite nicely in the shorter end of the focal length spectrum, but the jump in primes from the 77mm FA Limited to the DA*200/2.8 is rather brutal..... There's the 50-135, not a prime but with IQ to rival any prime. Originally posted by jaeaetee I think there is a place for a fast APS-C 24-28mm lens, preferably an affordable one. We're still discussing limiteds? Originally posted by jaeaetee there's the 21mm limited, which is only f/3.2 and slightly too wide, maybe Take a step forward and you're set. Originally posted by jaeaetee Sigma has 20, 24 and 28mm f/1.8 lenses, which all have crappy corner sharpness. Same story with the 30mm f/1.4. Because they are pushing the apertures to get a wide maximum.

07-04-2013, 07:02 AM	#18
tclausen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,397	Originally posted by bdery There's the 50-135, not a prime but with IQ to rival any prime. Oh, I know that. But, I am sure that you agree, the 50-135 does not rival the compactness of any prime, let alone of a limited prime

07-04-2013, 08:56 AM	#19
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,363	Originally posted by tclausen Oh, I know that. But, I am sure that you agree, the 50-135 does not rival the compactness of any prime, let alone of a limited prime True. The DFA macro WR is probably the closest then. I'd sure love to see a 135 prime (or even a 150, Pentax has nice designs for these two FL already). On APS-C 150 actually makes more sense, I think. I've used 100, 120, 135 and 150mm primes, and the 135 was the least comfortable to me. 100, 150 and 120 (in that order) felt better.

07-04-2013, 11:20 AM	#20
tclausen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,397	Originally posted by bdery True. The DFA macro WR is probably the closest then. I'd sure love to see a 135 prime (or even a 150, Pentax has nice designs for these two FL already). On APS-C 150 actually makes more sense, I think. I've used 100, 120, 135 and 150mm primes, and the 135 was the least comfortable to me. 100, 150 and 120 (in that order) felt better. Well, if Ricoh releases any limited in the 100-150 range, then I'd be excited. I'd hope that they'd release a "quirky" focal length, though, like an 144mm/1.8 - just because that's what the Limiteds should be ....

07-04-2013, 01:04 PM	#21
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,363	Originally posted by tclausen I'd hope that they'd release a "quirky" focal length, though, like an 144mm/1.8 - just because that's what the Limiteds should be f1.8 is unlikely, but anything f2.8 in that range, with a 49mm thread, would make sense. The M120 f2.8 has a 49mm thread, they could re-use that design. their 150 also, but it's f3.5. I agree that a weird focal length would add some fun to it, but the DA limiteds are not that quirky : 15, 21 (maybe the oddball here but it's not that weird), 35, 40, 70. And 100 if you want...

07-04-2013, 01:29 PM	#22
jcdoss Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ingelheim am Rhein, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,802	How about 141mm, f/3.3? That'd be cool. No, maybe it wouldn't. But I agree, something in the circa 135mm range would be pretty nice to round out the collection. The 100mm, 120mm, and 150mm older lenses were quite small.

07-04-2013, 04:01 PM	#23
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by tclausen Not the OP, but I'd really really like to see an FA Limited 135/2.0 (note, FA - as I want to sidestep your APS-49mm-rule) or faster. Or a DA Limited 135/2.0, just to violate the rule. Either way, Pentax is doing quite nicely in the shorter end of the focal length spectrum, but the jump in primes from the 77mm FA Limited to the DA200/2.8 is rather brutal..... Pentax designed an FA 150/2 but it never saw the light of day....

07-04-2013, 08:29 PM	#24
ignmar Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Batam Posts: 43	Some fast DA prime lenses like 85mm F1.2 or F1.4 and DA zoom 70 - 200 F2.8. that will be nice.

07-04-2013, 09:33 PM	#25
carrrlangas Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Joensuu (Finland) Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,761	Originally posted by ignmar Some fast DA prime lenses like 85mm F1.2 or F1.4 and DA zoom 70 - 200 F2.8. that will be nice. those already exist as 24x36mm equivalents: DA55/1.4 and DA50-135/2.8

07-04-2013, 11:17 PM	#26
ignmar Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Batam Posts: 43	Originally posted by carrrlangas those already exist as 24x36mm equivalents: DA55/1.4 and DA50-135/2.8 ups my bad, i forgot about digital pentax is crop sensor. i'm just went digital hehehe

07-05-2013, 12:17 AM	#27
tclausen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,397	Originally posted by Pål Jensen Pentax designed an FA* 150/2 but it never saw the light of day.... Well, Pål, now would be an excellent time for them to drag that particular rabbit out of the hat, so as to amaze appease the audience Did any photos of the prototype of that 150/2 ever escape to the Internet?

07-05-2013, 12:38 AM	#28
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Reading quickly through this thread, it appears that there are exactly as many whishes as there are people. Pentax likes to work together with Tokina, and shopping around on their site I see a lot of oppertunities. Offtopic: Wow, there is an AF 300mm mirrorlens for M4/3 on the Tokina site. That's cool. Useless, but cool.

07-05-2013, 12:40 AM	#29
carrrlangas Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Joensuu (Finland) Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,761	Originally posted by Clavius Useless, but cool. Unless on a tripod... Which defeats the purpose of a mirrorles? ok, I get it. But options are always good.

07-05-2013, 10:51 AM	#30
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Pentax is missing a WR wide prime, likely a Limited. We have the DA*55 and the 100 Macro WR, but nothing wider that is WR. Perhaps their wide zoom may be the answer or take the 16-50 at its widest, but no wide WR is an issue and likely has a bearing on FF development.

Is there planned any new Prime Limited lens in short time?

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