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03-23-2008, 07:23 PM   #1
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small prime suggestions...

I just got a K1000 body that I want to use primes on. I envision 3-4 primes in my kit. I already have the 43Ltd. and a M28 on the way to me ($54 including shipping sounded like a really good deal to me).

Now the question...where should I go with the primes? I'd love to have the 77, but it's out of the question at the moment--perhaps later, though. Any ideas for something inexpensive in that general focal range with good IQ? What about on the WA end (I'm thinking about something in the 15-20 range)?

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03-24-2008, 05:09 AM   #2
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On the wide angle side, a good small prime is the M20 F/4, it goes for around 200$ this days

The other option is the A20/2.8 but as far as i know, it's much bigger and expensive.

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I agree with the M20/4, it is probably my favorite M-series lens, but the price is more like $350 right now, if you can find one.
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I have several inexpensive primes that look and work out great for me.
  • Vivitar 24mmm f/2.8 with (serial# 99)
  • Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 from Kiron (serial# 22)
  • Spiratone Plura-Coated 20mm f/2.8

I have a Vivitar 24mm f/2.8 in K mount with A aperture. The serial number starts with 99 and it is all plastic, I can't find any information on this lens. It is plastic and look cheap and with flare -- but I pay roughly $5.0 in a bundle with a Pentax p5. I can't complain







And I also get a Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 from Kiron for about $20 in marketplace, but I need to modify the lens to fit onto dSLR body in KAF2, documented in this blog post


Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 from Kiron - Hin's Tech Corner




Notice the long flange on rear end



And I have a recent purchase with Spiratone Plura-Coated 20mm f/2.8. It works out great on my Pentax Super Program and I am yet to test it on K100D. It cost me < $70 to get it.


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03-25-2008, 03:59 PM   #5
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QuoteOriginally posted by hwblanks Quote
Now the question...where should I go with the primes?
I have MX and M 28/3.5, M 40/2.8, M 50/1.4 and M 100/2.8.

Depends on what I want I can take MX+40 for compactness, M+40,100 for versatility, M+50 for low light or M+28,50,100 for maximum flexibility.

May or may not work for you, but that's my current film kit.
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On the tele end, I'm leaning towards picking up a M100/4 macro, as it'll kill 2 birds with one stone--I'll have a dedicated macro that will work on either the K1000 or K10D and it'll work for tele pics, too.

I saw a SMC-A20/2.8 on KEH for $599, but that's just a bit high for my budget at this point. I'll still be on the lookout for a M20, though.

I've given some thought to the M40, but it's so close to the 43 that I'm having a hard time justifying that purchase to myself. On the other hand, it or an inexpensive M50 might be a good purchase that could stay on the camera most of the time; I could carry that combination around most of the time and not worry about anything happening to the 43.

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For my first few years of photography I used an me super stolen from my dad with a M28 2.8, a M50 2.0, and a M135 3.5. Nice, simple light. My collection eventually changed and grew, including the M20 4 that others mentioned, also a very nice small lens. Now with digital and a bunch of lenses, everything seems so complicated and cumbersome. My goal is a small film setup, mostly B&W, to help me remember the simpler times. An me super, 31mm and 77mm lens would be perfect, a guy can dream right.
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I share the same thoughts of having a small setup for digital as well as for my film body. Like many others have suggested I try to limit to 3 primes per body. I have not gotten there yet, it is all in the LBA thinking and plannning

For digital: I am looking for limited trio with:

1. The smallest with pancakes DA limited for all digital

21mm, 40mm, and 70mm

2. The ultimate one, not as small but a bit more expensive but share 2 lens with film bodies. I heard from others having successes in using 40mm and 70mm pancake on film but DA 40mm pancake is hard to use for manual focusing, and hence replace 40mm with 43mm.

21mm, 43mm, 77mm (or 70mm to save on cost and faster AF in 70)

For film body, I have the following primes but they are not small as compared to the pancakes.

20mm f/2.8 (Spiratone), FA 50mm f/1.4 or a manual 50mm, Jupiter9 85mm f/2.0

The thoughts keep coming, fun but expensive to have both digital and film. In my current use, I find myself using a combination of a prime for wide angle along with a zoom. For example, I pair up a Vivitar 24mm f/2.8 with a SMC FA 28-105 in my recent trip to Washington DC and I recently tried out my spiratone to pair up with a Tokina zoom lens for cheap with 28-70 f/2.8-4.3 and 1:3 Macro on K mount.

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I have tried to limit my prime collection to relitively fast lenses.

Presently have

Tamron 24mm F2.5
SMC 50mm F1.4
SMC 105mm F2.8
SMC 135mm F2.5
SMC 300mmF4
Vivitar 400mm F5.6
and SMC-M 100mm F4 macro

I am looking for at least 2 additional primes, 85mm F1.8 and a fast 35mm.

All present primes are MF and that does not bother me,

The 105 is my latest lens and is great for head shots. I looked at SMC-M 100 F2.8 and the SMC 105 F2.8. To me (personal opinion) the M series lenses feel cheap, the focusing is not as smooth as the origonal K mounts and the lenses just do not have the same feel to them when you use them,
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I have got two sets of MF prime kit:
Compact:
- M28/f3.5, M50/1.7, M100/2.8, M200/4

A little bigger (but faster):
- K24/2.8, K50/1.8, K85/1.8, K135/2.5

M200/4 and K135/2.5 are the two biggest lenses in there but luckily I don't use them that much.

For the wide end, I have got Tokin 17/3.5 and Zenitar 16/2.8 fish eye.

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On an impulse, I bid on a M50/1.4 on Fleabay at the last minute and actually won it. Grand total with shipping--$63.50. Since I don't have much more than that in the checking account at the moment, I'm suffering from a little bit of financial indigestion. It's kind of like continuing to overeat when you know you've eaten way more than enough already; you know you're going to be feeling really bad later on, but what you're eating is so good, it's hard to stop.

One good thing in all of this is that the seller accepts personal checks and has a waiting period before shipping, so my checking account should be in better shape by then.

Hopefully, the financial indigestion will be worth it once I actually get the lens.

Heather

PS--After doing some looking and realizing that the M100/4 macro is a 1:2 macro instead of 1:1 like I really want, I'm backing off from getting it. If I can gather enough money from my Fleabay sales, I may hold out for a Vivitar series 1 105 macro.
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Compact, relatively light, well-built, and cheap...Tamron Adaptall-2 02B 28 mm f/2.5. Pricing is generally less than $35 for a good copy. The Adaptall PK/M mount is readily available and will work fine with the K1000. Price for the mount used varies, but some are still available as NOS at the local camera store for about $25.
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Heather,
Since you live in Florida, I bet that there are many estate sales down there. It is a retirement area. If you check the papers and make a few phone calls, you may come up with some treasures cheap. Just a thought.

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QuoteOriginally posted by hwblanks Quote
PS--After doing some looking and realizing that the M100/4 macro is a 1:2 macro instead of 1:1 like I really want, I'm backing off from getting it.
How often will you need 1:1 macro? Macro 1:1 will let you snap object that fist into 16x24mm rectangle (APS-C, or 24x36mm on film). That is VERY small area! 1:2 is also good and M100/4 is an exceptional lens.
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