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08-27-2013, 12:47 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by JinDesu Quote
The 35-70 has better image quality and autofocus speed than the DAL 18-55. It's smaller and more solid built. You'll need a hood, it doesn't come with one.

Downsides are: 18-35mm is a very useful range to have. 35mm can be quite tight when shooting indoors and also trying to take picture of buildings.
I agree with Jim that despite the similarities in focal length they really do cover a different range. the 35-70 is the stronger lens in the 50 mm range. The close focusing is another useful feature. It is also a bit faster, especially at the longer end where I find a minimum aperture of 5.6 to be limiting. On a water resistant body the WR version of the kit lens is a plus as can be the quick shift feature. It also comes with a hood suitable for the entire range. I'm not sure what options for a hood you have for the 35-70 that will work well at all focal lengths but it does need one.

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I agree with Jim that despite the similarities in focal length they really do cover a different range.
Okay, so along with @seventysixersfan, you're saying I should buy (and keep) both!! Hah! I'm trying to acquire small, light, and compact lenses, which is why I don't want (at this time) a 17-70mm model that would cover both these ranges. On my K-01, having a WR lens doesn't matter much, but I do enjoy the quick-shift on my DA limited lenses and might miss this feature on the F 35-70 lens. Still, I agree with you on the f/5.6 max aperture at 50-55mm for the 18-55 kit lens-- that's pretty slow...
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I LOVE my F35-70. I found it to be perfect for most family events where it seemed every other shot was one side or the other of the 50/55mm junction of the kit lenses.

FYI - look up the Martin hood on eBay. While not the most durable construction, it is a two-piece design. One piece screws into your filter ring and the second piece (the hood) is then a bayonet mount that can also be reversed for storage just like the hoods on the DA series. You will likely also want to purchase a center-pinch lens cap just like used on the DA lenses. It is otherwise difficult to remove the cap with the hood mounted.
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I LOVE my F35-70. I found it to be perfect for most family events where it seemed every other shot was one side or the other of the 50/55mm junction of the kit lenses.
That's why I think I could use that lens. I find myself needing to swap my DA 40 for my DA 70 all the time, and vice versa, and it would be super convenient to have one compact lens that could quickly zoom from one end to the other and back...

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FYI - look up the Martin hood on eBay. While not the most durable construction, it is a two-piece design.
Thanks for the tip; I would prefer to have a reversible lens hood than a screw-on rubber one. I just tried to look up this item on eBay but struck out on results. What is it called exactly? Or can you suggest search terms? I was coming up with various guitars!

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QuoteOriginally posted by yellowbrick Quote
That's why I think I could use that lens. I find myself needing to swap my DA 40 for my DA 70 all the time, and vice versa, and it would be super convenient to have one compact lens that could quickly zoom from one end to the other and back...



Thanks for the tip; I would prefer to have a reversible lens hood than a screw-on rubber one. I just tried to look up this item on eBay but struck out on results. What is it called exactly? Or can you suggest search terms? I was coming up with various guitars!
MATIN Camera Lens Hood 49mm | eBay

or for our friends in the UK:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matin-M5930-Plastic-Camera-Lens-Hood-49mm-Can-Be-Equ...item41747dd70f
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Thanks, Jim! If/when I decide to get a 35-70 lens, I'll be sure to look into getting this lens hood. I'm not a big fan of those rubber collapsible ones.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yellowbrick Quote
Thanks, Jim! If/when I decide to get a 35-70 lens, I'll be sure to look into getting this lens hood. I'm not a big fan of those rubber collapsible ones.
The plastic is a bit thin on the hood so it won't survive a serious knock, and it does not have the cut-out for turning a polarizing filter. But using a polarizer is hard on the 35-70 anyhow. If this lens has any downfall, it is that the front element rotates during focusing. And at US$11, I'll take my chances that I might have to replace this hood someday.
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Hi there,
I own the K-01 and an SMC-F 35-70. I do not own the kitlens. I agree with most comments above, the image quality of the 35-70 is outstanding. Very low distortion/CA. Autofocus is very fast and accurate. And oh yes, the great macro function! The lens is also light and small.
Mechanically it feels a bit 'loose' but it is actually well built, the autofocus is rough. 35mm will make you wish you had something wider in your pocket. Focus ring is a bit small for manual use.

In all, and regardless of the low price, it's a no-brainer really which couples great with the K-01.

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I do enjoy the quick-shift on my DA limited lenses and might miss this feature on the F 35-70 lens.
Just press and hold the lens release button and you can manually tweak your focus - think of it as a semi-Quick Shift function.
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I see I am a bit of the black sheep saying the DA18-55 has better IQ. But aside from that, there are a lot more things that can make a lens a better fit for each of us.
This thread might be useful comparing modern vs old coatings (or hazy element on old F35-70?) https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/234290-lens-haze-flare-issue.html
Also, the much mentioned "macro" capability of the F35-70 isnīt such: max magnification is 0.25x ONLY at 70mm and MDF is just 0.7m at every other FL. DA18-55 has a 0.34x magnification and MDF is 0.25m across all the range.
Itīs still way smaller, faster AF, faster aperture...
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If the OP doesn't mind manual focusing:
The SMC Pentax-A 4.0/35-70 (NOT the A 3.5-4.5/35-70) is even better than the F. And it has very good macro IQ.

But it is considerably bigger and heavier, and also more expensive.
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F35-70, it's a great lens for the money.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yellowbrick Quote
On my K-01, having a WR lens doesn't matter much, but I do enjoy the quick-shift on my DA limited lenses and might miss this feature on the F 35-70 lens. Still, I agree with you on the f/5.6 max aperture at 50-55mm for the 18-55 kit lens-- that's pretty slow...
If it wasn't for the WR feature I probably wouldn't keep the 18-55, once I bought a lens to get me below 28mm which is my only (semi) wide angle at the moment. You can still pick up 35-70 on the cheap and they come by fairly often. There are lots of 18-55 out there, and seeing how many are for sale you can certainly buy the non-WR version on the cheap, although not all have quick shift.
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FYI - look up the Martin hood on eBay. While not the most durable construction, it is a two-piece design. One piece screws into your filter ring and the second piece (the hood) is then a bayonet mount that can also be reversed for storage just like the hoods on the DA series. You will likely also want to purchase a center-pinch lens cap just like used on the DA lenses. It is otherwise difficult to remove the cap with the hood mounted.
Jim, - thanks for the tip. I'm assuming this hood doesn't cause vignetting at the 35mm end. And if so, is it still effective at 70?
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Now look what I've done!! This thread has made me buy another F35-70 after I had sold mine to carrrlangas last January. My wife isn't going to be happy to see the lens come back... I was supposed to pare down my collection, not increase it!!!
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