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09-25-2013, 11:07 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Na Horuk Quote
DA 40mm XS.
Or bump up to the Limited, I've had my eye out and it seems like if you're patient you could get one used for $250. $300 seems more typical, though.

09-25-2013, 01:50 PM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by scratchpaddy Quote
Are you talking about the Helios 44? That's a $30 lens!
You were robbed! I paid $15 USD for my Helios 44M.

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I use my Sigma 30mm f1.4 for fashion and it does an outstanding job
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I've never done this kind of work so don't listen to me, but based on my recent experience with my copy of FA77 that I've had for close to a few months now, I question that your DA70 should be written off as too long for this scenario without at least testing it yourself to see what you think.. I also love my FA50/1.4 and know it would work great in this scenario too, and so could 28/31/40/43 obviously... I personally would be trying to make FA77 work if I were in your position and then resorting to my FA50 and FA31 if I agreed with everybody else that I was too far away...

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Seconding Todd's comments above... Here are a couple of snapshots with the 77 ltd of people painting a mural. No great shakes, but they do illustrate the ability of the lens to take a group photo (with room to spare). I am not good at estimating distances, but I was about two (average) car-lengths away (less, for the first one).
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Not sure why so many are suggesting 50mm for full body portraits. I realize you said outdoors, but 50mm will force you to stay at something of an annoying distance from your subject. I think 30 to 40 mm is really a better choice.

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it depends what's important to you, angle of view or perspective, personally I wouldn't use any thing less than 50m, getting up close with a 28 or 30 throws the perspective out too much for me, unless there's some reason you can't get back a couple of steps
I would opt for a zoom anyway in that situation, AT-X pro 28-70 2.8 or something in that range then you've got all bases covered, including use of fill flash if its a dull day

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30-40mm will be better if you are taking portraits in tighter situations -- however a fast 50 will give you better subject isolation (not just because of the larger aperture but the perspecitve as well). I would look at an F 50/1.7. They are pretty cheap to come by and the rendering is simply superb. I love it for portraiture.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
You were robbed! I paid $15 USD for my Helios 44M.

If you can buy Helios 44s at that price regularly, you can make money hand over fist by selling them on eBay.

The current going rate (varying with condition/model/etc) seems be in the $40-$50 range (with shipping), but certain ones end up going for more. It's not always discernible why.

I know, because I've been in the market for a while.

I just bought a 44M for $29 shipped. We'll see if I got a good deal when it gets here and I try it out.

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