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10-25-2013, 08:22 AM   #1
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M42 Lens Combo/Collection Suggestions

Hello guys, as of now, im pretty enjoying collecting lens and more interested on m42s.
For now, i only have a Super Tak 55/1.8, although i aim on collecting m42 50's, i have no plan getting a Tak 50 1.4 simply because the price is ridiculous on ebay where i get most of my lens
I would like to ask for suggestions on which m42 to get/collect as i also plan to do a thorough testing. As much as possible i would like to get an m42 that does have a unique characteristic.

Currently on my list

1. Helios 44-2 (Swirly Bokeh, although some 44 have this effect but the 44-2 is the king of swirls based on review photos)
2. Helios 44M-6 or 44M-7 (Sharpness and contrast, though not comparable to the Taks)
3. Industar 50-2 (i dont know, saw photos of it and it kinda have a romantic feel to it, but thats just me)
4. Industar 61 LZ (ditto)
5. Mir 1 or 1B or 1V (for some reason i just got interested on this lens.
6. Jupiter 9 (need at least 1 85mm m42)

Can you suggest other m42 "GEMS"? Or which options on the list should i get or omit? Sorry for the long post. Really enjoyed reading the Soviet Lens Club Thread.

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I have a brand new Helios 44M-6 that is the sharpest 50mm I have, more than the Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4, although it has a tendency to flare (which may or may not be a problem). It's also a great lens with macro tubes due to it's sharpness:


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The Mir 1B lens is difficult to mount with the PK-M42 adapter because the lens body has a very small flange size. It is not a big enough diameter to snug up against the body. This will cause the lens to rock back and forth. You may need some shims for the lens. I'm not trying to discourage you but just want you to be aware. There should be threads here you can find.

The Jupiter is very sharp and you will enjoy the IQ. It is extremely heavy though. The heft and the long focal length may turn this lens into a limited use item.

The Helios is a great lens and the swirly bokeh, if you can get it into your shots, is amazing! Watch out for the variants that may not be able to operate in manual aperture mode.
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Bonjour,

I have an extra 44-2 (plus 44Ms & 44M-4s) if you're interested ... my suggestion = a Jupiter 11A, just got one but need to service it ...



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44-2

just ordered Helios 44-2 on ebay yesterday.. Its new and unused.. pretty excited..
Thank you for the suggestion on Jupiter 11A, but.... its very pricey on ebay
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QuoteOriginally posted by rp_dxn Quote
just ordered Helios 44-2 on ebay yesterday.. Its new and unused.. pretty excited..
Thank you for the suggestion on Jupiter 11A, but.... its very pricey on ebay
I know, I got a good deal on mine despite its battered cosmetic shape ... watch the marketplace here ... one comes up every now and then and sometimes reasonably priced ... J
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Oh, here's another suggestion ... just got it this week and have not really shot a lot with it ... quite small ... Industar 50/3.5 ... Salut, J

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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
The Mir 1B lens is difficult to mount with the PK-M42 adapter because the lens body has a very small flange size. It is not a big enough diameter to snug up against the body. This will cause the lens to rock back and forth. You may need some shims for the lens. I'm not trying to discourage you but just want you to be aware. There should be threads here you can find.
Is the problem limited to the 1B? I got the 1 without any letters and with my K5 I did not notice any mount problems.

I quite like this lens, by the way. Not the sharpest I own in that focal neighbourhood (DA 35 Limited for example...), but has lots of character, as have all the Russian lenses I own!

Sadly it's the widest I currently own in M42, and I'm currently searching for a 2x mm Takumar rather than another Russian lens. But there are some that will find their way into my collection some day!

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I've gone from wondering why in the world someone would want more that one lens of a particular focal length to my own small collection of 50s (dang this forum and it's LBA influence & impact on my wallet!). I picked up a Chinon 50/1.7 macro in M42 mount recently that's quite nice. Haven't used it extensively, but for what I've tried so far it seems to be very sharp and produces good color & bokeh. I got it for $5 at one of my local stores. I haven't been able to find much out about it, but one user on Flickr has some sample photos from a 55/1.7 and a bit of history that mentions how the 50/1.7 macro came to be (click on the "See more" link for the history):

Chinon MCM 55/1.7 (Summer 2011) - a set on Flickr
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QuoteOriginally posted by dtrego Quote
I've gone from wondering why in the world someone would want more that one lens of a particular focal length to my own small collection of 50s (dang this forum and it's LBA influence & impact on my wallet!).
Hahahaha. Once you have 5 50s there is no escape from the LBA.
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Its impossible to have only one lens of each focal length.I feel that I need at least three. Maybe more.
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The Takumar on US ebay is dirt cheap in my opinion, for what you get. M42 lets you shoot in AV which is second best after the As. But I would still prefer the build quality among the M-42.
Tried out some 50s and my favourites are:

SMC Tak 50 (the overall best performer)
Helios 44-3 (swirlyness and close focusing)
Super Macro Takumar (even closer focusing, and sharper landscapes)
The 55 - Portraits
Fujinon 55 1.8 (!)
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you need to watch out as this is a sure recipe for LBA

Seriously, i started my M42 collection with an SMC Tak 35/2 wanting a fast 35mm prime to fill the gaps in my K mount collection.

that was just 1 lens, but over time my liking of M42 lenses in general and wanting a different look has caused me to spend (although not a lot compared to getting the same range in even K mount, and forget about AF.

what started as one lens, is now the following

Zenit 16/2.8 fisheye
Tamron Adaptall 2 24/2.5
vivitar 28/2.3
S-M-C tak 35/2
super tak (8 element) 50/1.4
S-M-C Macro-Tak 50/4
S-M-C tak 55/1.8
SMC Tak 55/2
Helios 58/2
Super tak 85/1.9
Tamron Adaptall 2 90/2.5 macr0
vernon edonar 105/2.8 preset
S-M-C tak 135/3.5
Tele-Lentar 135/2.8 preset
Tele-Tokina 180/3.5 preset
S-M-C Tak 200/4
Tele Coligon 200/4.5 preset
tak 200/3.5 preset
Nikkor H 300/4.5 (modified to M42)

now sitting at 19 lenses in total (at about $1400 in total) so average price of $70 but in fact only 2 of the lenses cost over $100 and a whole bunch for less than 50

they are enjoyable however to use, and my K10D which has had the lens locking pin and AF drive (both linked mechanically) fail is now an M42 body

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