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01-18-2007, 11:32 PM   #1
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Opinions please?

Sigma 28-80 mm & 70-300 mm Two Lens Zoom Kit plus Gadget Bag for Pentax AF - 253091540 - RitzCamera.com

Would this be a worthwhile upgrade from the kit lens for a person on a tight budget?


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01-19-2007, 05:34 AM   #2
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No idea. But here is the link as a hyperlink for us lazy people:

Sigma 28-80 mm & 70-300 mm Two Lens Zoom Kit plus Gadget Bag for Pentax AF - 253091540 - RitzCamera.com
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QuoteOriginally posted by dws1117 Quote
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Would this be a worthwhile upgrade from the kit lens for a person on a tight budget?
Well, the price is certainly right - two lenses + a bag for $200 is an extraordinary bargain. Indeed, that's one of the things that worries me a bit about it. If the lenses are usable, this would seem to be a bargain even if they priced it closer to $300. Still, if you can afford to put $200 at risk, it might be worth trying. I'm tempted, and I don't need either of these lenses. :-)

I searched around on the Web just now for a few minutes and was not able to find any very helpful reviews of either lens. Note that the 70-300 is a DL, not a DG and apparently not an APO lens either. I'm not entirely sure what these letters mean, but I was able to find reviews of the DG and APO models on Amazon.com (they're well thought of).

My GUESS - which could be competely wrong, that's why I'm saying it's a guess - is that these are two older model lenses and this is a clearance sale. Older does not mean bad.

If you can't afford to take the risk that you'll spend $205 badly, then I would either (a) spend some time in Google looking for more info about the two lenses; or (b) pass on the deal and spend this much to get just one lens. There are a number of models out there in the 28-70 or 28-80 range with various price tags. Places to shop:

sigma4less.com
adorama.com
bhphotovideo.com
amazon.com

All good online vendors that I've done business with. The same deal is available through amazon.com - they're simply listing it for the supplier (Ritz Camera). I often check amazon.com because I can find user reviews there even if there are no publication reviews in the usual locations. Have to take the user reviews with a grain of salt, but I find them useful especially when I have nothing else to go on.

By the way, Amazon has the Sigma 70-300 F4-5.6 DG for sale for $130, and there's one very enthusiastic review from someone who says he's a pro photog. I'd want to figure out the difference between the DG and the DL that comes with the 2-lens+bag offer. But if the DL is basically an earlier version of the DG, and the DG is going for $130 now (because there's another model replacing it), well, then the price for the 2-lens offer might be about right.

Will

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Neither Sigma lens is all that good. IMHO the Tamron pair is a slightly better buy
AF77017P Tamron Twin Zoom Lens Kit for Pentax AF Film Cameras with 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical & 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD 1:2 Auto Focus Macro Lens
Personally I quite like the kit lens.

NaCl(a great combo is the 18-55 paired with the pentax 50-200)H2O

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QuoteQuote:
Note that the 70-300 is a DL, not a DG and apparently not an APO lens either. I'm not entirely sure what these letters mean, but I was able to find reviews of the DG and APO models on Amazon.com (they're well thought of).


By the way, Amazon has the Sigma 70-300 F4-5.6 DG for sale for $130, and there's one very enthusiastic review from someone who says he's a pro photog. I'd want to figure out the difference between the DG and the DL
There are a few versions of the Sigma 70-300 and the APO DG Macro is supposedly the only "good' one - for a budget lens at about $200. I'd say mine is good to about 200 or 230 mm, then fair to 300mm :-( Others think it is sharp to 300mm, but not for a least 2 of us around here...
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QuoteOriginally posted by NaClH2O Quote
Neither Sigma lens is all that good. IMHO the Tamron pair is a slightly better buy
AF77017P Tamron Twin Zoom Lens Kit for Pentax AF Film Cameras with 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical & 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD 1:2 Auto Focus Macro Lens
Personally I quite like the kit lens.
Both the Sigma and Tamron 70-300 are good lenses at that money, I personally like the Tamron a bit better. The 28-80 is meh, no real need for it, on a digital it becomes a 42-120... why bother?

As someone surmised, they are running these deals to get all the old 28-80 lenses for film cameras out the door before they really start to smell.

Personally, I'd either stick w/ the 18-55 and add on the 70-300, or just replace the 18-55 w/ an 18-200.
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If you dig a bit at Photozone you can find a considerable number of user reviews of many lenses that fit Pentax cameras. Here is a link: photozone

Keep in mind that these are user reviews; nothing remotely scientific. There is some bias toward high priced equipment, fast glass, etc.
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Thanks for all the help. This was more just testing the firmness of the dirt before fully inserting the shovel.

All of you had some good suggestions.

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Have you taken a look at the 50-200mm Pentax lens? Just picked one up for $220 with a $50 rebate. Matches my kit lens fine until I figure out what Prime I want to get after spending some time shooting both.

Amazon.com: Pentax DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED Lens for Pentax and Samsung DSLR Cameras: Electronics
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