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04-09-2008, 07:33 PM   #1
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Pentax 50mm f/1.2

Adorama has two of these in the used lot for $350

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they have an a K "E+" and A "E" for $349 but i can't seem to convince myself to put in my credit card number and buy it
anyone know how these conditions really are? i'm seeing some bad stuff about Adorama used equipment
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Dunno, but as tempting as it is, I know I don't need glass that fast, amazing bokeh or not. I have to stay focussed on building the kit that I want.
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Is there really that much difference from f/1.2 to f/1.4? Seems like my f/1.4 was a bargain at $179 new?

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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
they have an a K "E+" and A "E" for $349 but i can't seem to convince myself to put in my credit card number and buy it
anyone know how these conditions really are? i'm seeing some bad stuff about Adorama used equipment
Actually, I just ordered a used M 200mm f4 from them that was rated as "VG", which is a step below "E", and it's in exceptional shape - a very small mark on the lens hood, some extremely small smudges on the barrel, but that's it - shiny and new otherwise. I would have rated it an "E", I had to really look for the imperfections, and I'm pretty picky. Based on that one order I'd order again with confidence in their ratings, but I could have been just lucky also.

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Buddha, what IS the kit you want?
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For the A version, $350 is a very good price considering KEH is selling one at 500ish. If I don't have one enroute right now, I would probably jump on it.
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Thanks Buddha!!!

I tried to order one. It looks like they don't do real time
inventory since it's still listed. I guess I'll have to wait till
tomorrow to see if I actually got it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by craig1024 Quote
Is there really that much difference from f/1.2 to f/1.4? Seems like my f/1.4 was a bargain at $179 new?
Well, there is no difference between the two. Kit zoom is more than enough for any types of photography. We are just all that silly doing LBA.
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Of course there is no significant different between the 1.2 and 1.4. However, due to the complexity to get a f/1.2 aperture and rarity, this lens would cost much higher than the 50/1.4. You can take a look at the Canon L 50/1.2 for another example of price difference.
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I was just joking there.

There is quite a difference to my naked eyes for the images produced by A 50 f1.2 and Fa 50 f1.4 respectively.

Just that a lot of people do not appreciate the difference and hence we will leave it as it is.

I am sure that you would love that depth of field at f1.2

When I was 15 yr old, I would basicly snare at the idea of f1.2 and manual focusing (everything has to be sharp sharp and sharp; manual focusing is too prehistoric etc)

Even at f1.4, A 50 f1.2 is more consistent with image quality having better contrast and overall IQ (of course, only I belive that myself)
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Of course I know you were joking. That big smiley face is a big hint.

To be honest, when I said no significant difference, this is because the "mere" 2/3 a stop gain. But i could be wrong. You have to try it to appreciate it: the thinner DOF, the measily stop gain (but can stop you right at the border of the next higher ISO), and superior IQ (I based this on carpent's test and several other 50/1.2 users). I guess that warrants the premium.
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QuoteOriginally posted by roentarre Quote

Even at f1.4, A 50 f1.2 is more consistent with image quality having better contrast and overall IQ (of course, only I belive that myself)
I also found there was a big difference between the 1.2 and 1.4, but I mostly thought that was because I don't know how to use the 1.2 -- not that I really know how to use the 1.4 but I find I consistently get better results with the "slower" lens. I like the 1.4 enough that I'm thinking of getting the AF version.

QuoteOriginally posted by aegisphan Quote
To be honest, when I said no significant difference, this is because the "mere" 2/3 a stop gain. But i could be wrong.
Can't wait to hear your impressions when the lens arrive.
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Well, for me, 'heavy glass' is part of it. I have the 'A' and the 'K' 1.2s The on-camera using experience is greatly different from 1.4s and slower. IQ varies and I get fewer good shots with the 1.2s but not many and that's mainly due to my skill levels.......
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Buddha, what IS the kit you want?
This is what I am going for...
DA*16-50mm, DA*50-135mm, DA*200mm, DA*300mm, DA35mmLTD, DA*55mm(when available), FA77mmLTD or DA70mmLTD and the new SDM TC when it comes out.
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