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01-13-2014, 08:34 PM   #16
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I have the Rokinon version of the Samyang 85mm and it's very nice. I've not tried the others and would love to. I thought of getting the Sigma 85 and would love love love the classic FA 85.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
I think this is a great comment. People equate plastic lens barrels with poor quality, but I find the samyang is excellent in quality Especially considering the price
To be completely honest, build quality doesn't make images, either. I'd rather have great optics and above average build quality than above average optics and great build quality. It's a lens, after all. You can't see the build quality in the final image.
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Helios 40-2 85mm f/1.5
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I have an old Super-Takumar 85/1.9. I can't really describe in useful terms what I like about it but portraits are great. It is also fairly small for an 85.

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No love for the Mitakon? I'd love to know more about this one..

amazon.com/Mitakon-Zhongyi-Silent-Camera-Pentax
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No love for the Mitakon? I'd love to know more about this one..

amazon.com/Mitakon-Zhongyi-Silent-Camera-Pentax
Full manual aperture (always stopped down). I have heard mixed reviews on the optical performance of Mitakon line.


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QuoteOriginally posted by infactimacat Quote
Helios 40-2 85mm f/1.5
I am seriously considering getting this lens eventually. May I ask what your thoughts are on this lens? I have 55mm Helios and love the swirly bokeh.
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The only one I have is the M. It has wonderful rendering and is very small for a fast 85 but has quite heavy blue fringing wide open. Stopped down to f/2.8 it's much better. It's one of my favourite lenses.

I've looked into the Taks & the K and I understand they're better, though I think the f/1.9 is the same formula as the M, just slightly faster. If you mostly use M42s anyway, these might be more convenient for you, but more expensive than the M.

I'd love to try the Samyang and I understand it would be optically the best of the options. I've heard a lot of reports of the aperture blades all falling out though, and as it's faster it's much bigger than the other options.

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I am seriously considering getting this lens eventually. May I ask what your thoughts are on this lens? I have 55mm Helios and love the swirly bokeh.
This would be ideal, but the prices are insane.
01-14-2014, 05:20 AM   #25
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QuoteOriginally posted by fuent104 Quote
To be completely honest, build quality doesn't make images, either. I'd rather have great optics and above average build quality than above average optics and great build quality. It's a lens, after all. You can't see the build quality in the final image.
True, optics make images, but build quality, or more importantly the build materials guarantee stability of performance over the life.

Having said that, I find that the plastics in use today in cameras, and much of this has been around for 20 years, is of a quality that for most gives equal performance to metal, at a fraction of the weight and cost
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I have the Rokinon version of the Samyang 85/1.4, and love its speed, sharpness, and bokeh.
Great with a K-01 and focus peaking.


Even love it with my Q for a +/- 470mm tele.
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The Samyang is an amazing lens.
I have plenty of lenses of portrait focal lengths on digital (although no other 85) and this one is by far the best optically. I is also the most convenient to use from the list above.

On the other hand, I'd love to get my hands on either in addition to the Samyang, just for the special character I've seen from them.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
I have the super tak 85/1.9 and the samyang 85/1.4

I would have to say, overall, I think the samyang lens is a great deal at 329 new. The coatings are much better than the tak, which is 40 years older

I do like the tak for the build, and I got it at a great price but the greatest downfall of legacy lenses is coatings. It is much more prone to flare and internal reflections especially with bright lights in insight shots.
Have you tried the Tak 85 with hood on? It's a total new world when shot wide open.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cloapex Quote
This would be ideal, but the prices are insane.
There are several on ebay for $550 or so... pretty reasonable for a quality 85mm, right?
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robtcorl - Fantastic picture - but also size! Thats a huge vessel! (or a little camera)
Thank you all for good information.

For me, size does matter ! and I got a local swedish offer for the M at 185 Dollars. seems good enough?
Size is a good thing. Size made my also buy the M 135/3.5 and the F 35-70 3,5-4,5
(The only bad thing is that I probably will end up collecting the Mīs now. :/ *lol*)

and after seeing those pictures...(you have to scroll down)
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/27739-m-club-11.html
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