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01-21-2007, 10:22 PM   #1
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I am thinking it's time to add another lens to the collection. I was considering the 16 - 45 or possibly the 40mm limited but one of the employees of the local (only) Pentax dealer thats any good suggested the 50 1.7. His rational was that I could do more with the fast glass than either of the other two. Any suggestions?

Currently using:
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50-200 DA lens
55 1.7 Super Multi coated takumar
135 3.5 Super Takumar
300 f4 Super Takumar

Any suggestions are welcome,

Ed

01-21-2007, 10:33 PM   #2
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I see you have the 55 mm f1.7, so why go with a 50 mm f 1.7? The 55 you have has about the same reach and is just as bright.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is what type of pictures are you intending to capture with your next lens purchase?
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maybe the 50 mm f1.4? that one could be a nice addition to your collection
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You're pretty well covered to 200mm and even have a nice jump to 300.

Stuck on just a lens-it's gotta be glass???

Try a Lensbaby or maybe one of those russian built tilt-shift lenses. For grins and chuckles you could find a re-worked Holga on K-Mount--all the goofy aberations, none of the light leaks-----should save on duct-tape.

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alvin, the only real advantage to the new lens is the autofocus - otherwise its a wash. I need a fairly fast lens to chase my kids at school/church/indoor sports events where I can't use flash. 50 - 55mm is reasonable reach in small venues . . . . .

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Photodad - sounds to me as if you're looking for the same lens that WMBP picked up. With that lens, I'd be shooting at ISO 1600, as indoor house lighting at times could be worse than a gymnasium. Look at WMBP's Basketball photo thread below.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/2327-better-basket...tos-k100d.html

With the pictures straight out of the camera (not doing any retouching) at ISO 1600 you should get decent 5x7 shots and might get a few 8x10 or larger gems depending on the lighting.

If you need something with a bigger aperture, the 50 f1.4 will do the trick. If you can't find that available (the 50 f1.4 is very popular!), I'd also consider the DFA 43 and the DA 40.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alvin Quote
Photodad - sounds to me as if you're looking for the same lens that WMBP picked up. With that lens, I'd be shooting at ISO 1600, as indoor house lighting at times could be worse than a gymnasium. Look at WMBP's Basketball photo thread below.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/2327-better-basket...tos-k100d.html

With the pictures straight out of the camera (not doing any retouching) at ISO 1600 you should get decent 5x7 shots and might get a few 8x10 or larger gems depending on the lighting.

If you need something with a bigger aperture, the 50 f1.4 will do the trick. If you can't find that available (the 50 f1.4 is very popular!), I'd also consider the DFA 43 and the DA 40.
Alvin, thanks for the response. you have given me some good ideas and some things to look at, I appreciate it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by photodad Quote
I am thinking it's time to add another lens to the collection. I was considering the 16 - 45 or possibly the 40mm limited but one of the employees of the local (only) Pentax dealer thats any good suggested the 50 1.7. His rational was that I could do more with the fast glass than either of the other two. Any suggestions?

Currently using:
istDL
18-55 kit lens
50-200 DA lens
55 1.7 Super Multi coated takumar
135 3.5 Super Takumar
300 f4 Super Takumar

Any suggestions are welcome,

Ed
I think the DA 77 limited would fit in their nicely or possibly a tamron 90mm macro

cheers

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Hi photodad.

I would not really go for Da40 f2.8 as it is not fast enough and it is not much different optically compared to your 55mm f1.7

Da16-45 f4 would be an overlap to your kit zoom in terms of focal lengths and this lens is not bright either... Even f2.8 is dark in a lot of indoor environment.

Fa 50 f1.4 is a good choice as it is nicely compact and light to carry with great pentax optical excellance. Though purple fringeing in highlights and sluggish AF in low light, it is still cheap for its quality. I would basicly avoid any day light shooting with that lens unless it is overcast weather or indoor...

Fa 43 f1.8 ltd has numerous criticism regarding its soft centre sharpness wide open until stopping down to f2.8 (not really an advantage having a low light lens here). A lot of followers love its colour and build, not caring what "soft" it can be. This lens is hard to get but I did see one or two available in the sell and trade section here. This is one of the lenses sold out first in bhphoto.com

I am quite eagerly waiting for any further news on the DA 55mm or DA 50mm from Pentax... If you can wait, let's wait for that one together

As many people in the forus have owned Fa31 ltd and Fa 77 ltd, both are outstanding in colour and reasonable sharpness. The lens review section would have these two lenses reviewed by peers here.

The new pancake ltds are really concentrating on sizes while trying to maintain the best possible optical resolution. Hence the key is to make these pancakes really small and handy to carry - a marketing feature for pentax specialty. Unless you really want to travel light and hardly use the lenses in dim light or indoor, they are really collector items. If you are just thinking to add a great lens to your collection, I guess Da ltds are worthwhile rather than practical reasons.

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I think you should look at going wider. How about the DA 12-24?
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QuoteOriginally posted by kpfeifle Quote
I think you should look at going wider. How about the DA 12-24?
This would have been my suggestion also. Too bad it's mostly out of stock.

NaCl(I'm a bit irked at the current lack of lens availability)H2O
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QuoteOriginally posted by photodad Quote
I am thinking it's time to add another lens to the collection. I was considering the 16 - 45 or possibly the 40mm limited but one of the employees of the local (only) Pentax dealer thats any good suggested the 50 1.7. His rational was that I could do more with the fast glass than either of the other two. Any suggestions?

Currently using:
istDL
18-55 kit lens
50-200 DA lens
55 1.7 Super Multi coated takumar
135 3.5 Super Takumar
300 f4 Super Takumar

Any suggestions are welcome,

Ed
As someone said (Alvin?), a 50 1.7 wouldn't be any major improvement. Go with the 50 f/1.4, I have an older SF-1 vintage one, works great, plenty of light. And this is another vote for the Tamron 90mm macro already suggested. Finally, get a wider lens - the Tokina 10-17, or if you can find one (good luck!) the ancient 15mm rectalinear. It's amazing.
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I'd second Alvin and look into a fast(f/2.8) 28-70 lens like the Sigma or Tamron 28-75 Di. I have the Tamron and use it frequently for the type of photos you are hoping to capture. As a teacher I am frequently photographing students inside; with a high ISO you might not miss the extra stop of the 1.7 and get the flexibility of a zoom. You can buy the Tamron and Sigma for under $300US I believe.

Best wishes,
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I'd second Alvin and look into a fast(f/2.8) 28-70 lens like the Sigma or Tamron 28-75 Di. I have the Tamron and use it frequently for the type of photos you are hoping to capture. As a teacher I am frequently photographing students inside; with a high ISO you might not miss the extra stop of the 1.7 and get the flexibility of a zoom. You can buy the Tamron and Sigma for under $300US I believe.

Best wishes,
I just saw a post from Scott Rylance talking about this zoom. It isn't as ultra fast as the 1.4 but the flexibility could be just what I am looking for. I still have th old takumar 55mm 1.7 which has been really good except no AF.

I may pass the kit lens to my daughter who is showing a real interest . . . .

It's all food for thought.

Thanks,

Ed
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