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04-22-2008, 09:17 PM   #1
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Old 20mm or 21mm primes @eBay

I have just managed to buy a Vivitar (Kiron) 20mm/3.8 in eBay for $114.

But I am very surprised to see these high prices that old (except the last one) 20mm or 21mm primes are selling or sold in eBay:

Yashica 21mm/3.5 - $182.5 (15 hrs to go)
Carl Zeiss Jena M42 2.8/20mm Flektogon MC - $255 (3 days 10 hrs to go)
Carl Zeiss Flektogon 4/20 M42 mount Flektogon 20/4 - $149 (4 days 20 hrs to go)
Tomioka Auto Chinon 21mm Lens plus Polarizing Filter - $178 (4days 22 hrs to go)
Flektogon 20/2.8 MC Zeiss lens Praktica M42 - $355 (Ended)
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR FLEKTOGON MC 20mm 20 F2.8- $382 (Ended)
Lens "Mir-20M" f/3.5/20mm M42. Brand New. - $168 (24 hrs to go)

Just wonder if they are worth that much for using them on a dSLR comparing to a modern DA 21mm/3.2 Limited which is selling for around $440.

Any thoughts?


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04-22-2008, 09:25 PM   #2
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The Flektogon 20 will end around $330+ for sure. This lens is one of the best WA at distortion control (good for architecture). It depends on what you're looking for. I know most manual users would rather get a Flek than going with the DA 21. Resolution-wise, the DA 21 might have an edge over these (it's more expensive after all).
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It is understandable that the pretigious CZJ Flektagon 20mm could fetch higher price than Yashica, Vivitar or Chinon 20mm/21mm etc.

But in general, the price levels have moved upwards from $100- $200 range to $200-$300 range. Why? Are there too many dSLR users chasing too few old lens?
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It's because the recent surge of affordable dSLR. More people were getting into the "more accessible" dSLR world. Demand rose, so did the price of these "prestigious" lenses. Even those less well-known lenses enjoyed the benefit from budget-minded users. And if the future dSLR makes it easier to work with these manual lenses (better exposure, focus confirmation, easier adaptation), the price would continue to rise.

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I'm definitely considering the Flek 20, although word on the street is that the lenses have variances like the recent *16-50. Now the question is: pony up for the f/2.8 or go with the f/4...

(Well...this will be after the Planar T* I'm ordering tomorrow. I'm down to one lens a month )

Personally, I'll gladly pay for old lenses, and pocket the difference between it and it's modern counterpart.

Seems like the Tomioka 21/3.7 is decent...I saw one for like $50 the other day...
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QuoteOriginally posted by dancheng Quote
I have just managed to buy a Vivitar (Kiron) 20mm/3.8 in eBay for $114.

Carl Zeiss Jena M42 2.8/20mm Flektogon MC - $255 (3
Any thoughts?
is stil avaiable ?.sorry for my english.i dont know this language
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QuoteOriginally posted by aegisphan Quote
It's because the recent surge of affordable dSLR. More people were getting into the "more accessible" dSLR world. Demand rose, so did the price of these "prestigious" lenses. Even those less well-known lenses enjoyed the benefit from budget-minded users. And if the future dSLR makes it easier to work with these manual lenses (better exposure, focus confirmation, easier adaptation), the price would continue to rise.
Yes, the recent surge in dSLR sales. Many of the more serious shooters found that the prime lens wide-angle options were not encouraging. That set off a rush to buy whatever quality used glass was available. When I first bought my K10D, you could still get the Flektogon 20/2.8 for under $200. Good luck now finding any prime under 24mm for less than $150.

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Hello!

It was very interesting to read these comments on the old wide angle primes.

Now I'd be curios about if there is anyone who could compare these oldies with their modern counterparts, more precisely - wich has the better IQ: some old 17, 18, 20mm legend or - for the example - the Pentax 12-24mm IF (at the same focal, of course)?

I've read several times that when using these oldies on a dSLR there is something wrong with the angle of the rays: they are very far from being ortogonal to the sensor and consequently these old primes can't reach their legendary performance any more (at least on a dSLR).

I've also read that there are budget zooms even producing sharper images than the Flek. or the MIR (at 20mm).

Lookin' forward to the comments...

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i am reviving that thread with the same question, how do they compare against the modern ones? cause i am 250eu and a button away from buying a mint 4/20 Flektogon in the search of printable quality
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I have the Mir and love using it, but I never put it in my K10D, film only. What's the point, might as well use the kit lens.
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