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04-23-2008, 01:25 AM   #1
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Old lens or new ? FA77 v M 85 F2

Hi. I bought the 77mm FA lens a few days ago and was just trying it out around the house. I was selling my old M series 85mm to pay for it and took a few photos with flash. It wasn't supposed to be a serious test but both were at F5.6 uning the AF360 flash.

So which do you think is better ( technically ) ?





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bottom pic is a bit more contrasty/sharp/warm
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Bottom pic is better. The sharpness might not be simply lens related of course.

But dont sell the 85mm unless you really have to . I have the M85 2.0 and it is a lovely lens to handle.
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Bottom pic is the 85mm manually focused though using the focus confirmation. Does make you wonder. I'll have to try manual focus on the two to see if it's just focusing that's the issue.

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Is the M85 F2.0 the same lens as the Jupiter-9?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stratario Quote
Is the M85 F2.0 the same lens as the Jupiter-9?
not at all ... the Jupiter 9 is a russian made Screwmount lens with a crazy number of aperture blades
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stratario Quote
Is the M85 F2.0 the same lens as the Jupiter-9?

No, very different lenses, although both are very good. Jupiter-9 seems to create images that can be very otherworldish, strange, but interesting & very sharp in center. The M 85 f/2 is pretty similar to the 77 - specular highlights, bokeh, super sharp stopped down, etc. I have both 77 & M 85 2, and they are remarkably similar, although the 77 is a bit more 'magical'.


I would like to pick up a Jupiter-9 also at some point.


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Is the M85 F2.0 the same lens as the Jupiter-9?
Nope

Jupiter-9 = Russian M-42 mount lens

M85 = Pentax M-series K-mount lens
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No, very different lenses, although both are very good. Jupiter-9 seems to create images that can be very otherworldish, strange, but interesting & very sharp in center...


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I think you may be confusing the J-9 with the Helios 42. The J-9 is soft wide open across the field, but seldom strange in its rendering. Stopped down it is sharp across the field. (At least those are the characteristics of my J-9.)
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What made me remember about J-9 is its 15 aperture blades... perfect circle in every aperture.... crazy
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My 85/2 is FAR lower contrast than my other Pentax lenses...the pancake 20, pancake 70, and Macro 35. I've compared closely in various situations. I think the 85's low contrast (like grade 2 vs grade 4, for those of you old enough) is an advantage in contrasty indoor light and is no disadvantage in flat light.

When I first started playing with it (K20D) the low contrast made me think it might be unsharp, but that was disproved when I started printing...it's especially good with highlight detail. It does have a character of its own.
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QuoteOriginally posted by janosh Quote
My 85/2 is FAR lower contrast than my other Pentax lenses...the pancake 20, pancake 70, and Macro 35. I've compared closely in various situations. I think the 85's low contrast (like grade 2 vs grade 4, for those of you old enough) is an advantage in contrasty indoor light and is no disadvantage in flat light.

When I first started playing with it (K20D) the low contrast made me think it might be unsharp, but that was disproved when I started printing...it's especially good with highlight detail. It does have a character of its own.

The DA limiteds are known for high-contrast, but that doesn't mean the M 85
has low contrast - probably lower than the DA ltds, though.


(M 85 f/2)




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