52mm Hood doesn't fit 18-55mm DA L

Steve.Ledger · 04-23-2014, 01:00 PM

I just got a SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR kit lens with my K-50.
It's not supplied with a hood, but I thought "No matter, I have an 18-55mm DA lens with a PH-RBA 52mm hood, I'll use that"
Nup - doesn't fit.. What a surprise! And how silly!

So, it there a particular Hood that will fit the SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR?
Suggestions please

**ivanvernon** · 04-23-2014, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

I just got a SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR kit lens with my K-50.
It's not supplied with a hood, but I thought "No matter, I have an 18-55mm DA lens with a PH-RBA 52mm hood, I'll use that"
Nup - doesn't fit.. What a surprise! And how silly!

So, it there a particular Hood that will fit the SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR?
Suggestions please

Very interesting. I had exactly the same problem, ordered hood from Keh and it did not fit my 18-55 WR but apparently does fit the earlier kit lenses. Problem is the hoods for the earlier lenses have four male flanges to match with similar surfaces on the AL 18-55, but the WR lenses and hoods have only two such flanges, so you have to order the specific part number/hood for the WR version of the lens. I finally found a screw-in type hood for my WR, not the ideal solution, and I am still looking for the proper hood. Good luck to you with the same problem.

stevebrot · 04-23-2014, 01:10 PM

The DA L 18-55 WR uses the PH-RBC 52 hood, the same as the DA 18-55 WR.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/634700-REG/Pentax_38766_PH_RBC_52mm_Lens_Hood.html

Steve

**boriscleto** · 04-23-2014, 01:10 PM

The 18-55 WR uses the PH-RBC hood, not the PH-RBA. No idea why it changed...

Steve.Ledger · 04-23-2014, 01:28 PM

Ah.. Thanks.
Might grab the JJC version from ebay

oxidized · 04-23-2014, 01:42 PM

Yup. Check ebay for cheapo Chinese knockoffs. They go for around 6-8 bucks shipped

Steve.Ledger · 04-23-2014, 01:47 PM

AUD$14 in this case - still fine by me.
► PH RBC Lens Hood Shade FOR Pentax DA 18 55mm F 3 5 5 6 AL WR 52mm Filter Thread | eBay

Incidentally, the PH-RBC is a 49mm non-petal hood according to the pentax web store??
PentaxWebstore.com:49mm Lens Hood PH-RBC 49mm Lens Hood PH-RBC

Pepe Le Pew · 04-23-2014, 01:49 PM

What filter would I need to buy for a HD DA 55-300mm F4-5.8 ED WR both Uv and Cpol?

Steve.Ledger · 04-23-2014, 01:54 PM

Best to start you're own thread rather than hijack this one with a totally unrelated question

Na Horuk · 04-23-2014, 02:31 PM

Best to check here:
Pentax DA Zoom Lenses - Reviews and Specifications - SLR and Interchangeable Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database
It usually says what filter sizes or hood type (in case its bayonet) fits.

And yes its quite confusing that the filter size and hood vary

wombat2go · 04-23-2014, 02:33 PM

I use the original 2004 SMC Pentax -DA 1:3.5 ~5.6 18~55 AL with the PH-RBA 52mm hood and it is a useful lens but has a bit of a flare problem when getting around to close angles to the sun.
Late afternoon facing west in our garden is a common photo I take here at parties etc.

here is a comparison I made last year against the old SMC Pentax -M 1:2 50mm also with a Pentax hood.
(early morning, the hood is just shading the lens, ..posted before)
18~55
https://app.box.com/s/xnir6j5sp99sdf05g6vs

SMC Pentax-M 1:2 50mm
https://app.box.com/s/izcv2q8akxhdh1ajxwuk

The common internet wisdom (!?) is that modern lenses are more flare resistant due to better coating tech, but these shots show the opposite.

I wonder if the newer hood is more effective and I would be interested to know if the newer 18 ~ 55 s versions with their hood are better in the sun than my original versions.

Regards !

stevebrot · 04-23-2014, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Incidentally, the PH-RBC is a 49mm non-petal hood according to the pentax web store??

That would be the PH-RBC 49. The hood names are suffixed with the filter diameter. Go figure.

Steve

Tanzer · 04-23-2014, 05:22 PM

The change was introduced with the DA 18-55 WR, after the DA 18-55 and DA 18-55ii models. I seem to recall the WR and non-WR outer diameter is close or identical, just the number of flanges is different, which I agree is a little frustrating. But that doesn't matter -- Pentax could have justified the different hood design, claiming (true or not) that the improved sealing necessitated a different barrel design,

I'm guessing that when the DA-L WR was introduced, they just lifted existing parts off the DA WR.

04-23-2014, 01:00 PM	#1
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	52mm Hood doesn't fit 18-55mm DA L I just got a SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR kit lens with my K-50. It's not supplied with a hood, but I thought "No matter, I have an 18-55mm DA lens with a PH-RBA 52mm hood, I'll use that" Nup - doesn't fit.. What a surprise! And how silly! So, it there a particular Hood that will fit the SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR? Suggestions please

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04-23-2014, 01:06 PM	#2
ivanvernon Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina, OH Photos: Albums Posts: 7,224	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger I just got a SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR kit lens with my K-50. It's not supplied with a hood, but I thought "No matter, I have an 18-55mm DA lens with a PH-RBA 52mm hood, I'll use that" Nup - doesn't fit.. What a surprise! And how silly! So, it there a particular Hood that will fit the SMC Pentax-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR? Suggestions please Very interesting. I had exactly the same problem, ordered hood from Keh and it did not fit my 18-55 WR but apparently does fit the earlier kit lenses. Problem is the hoods for the earlier lenses have four male flanges to match with similar surfaces on the AL 18-55, but the WR lenses and hoods have only two such flanges, so you have to order the specific part number/hood for the WR version of the lens. I finally found a screw-in type hood for my WR, not the ideal solution, and I am still looking for the proper hood. Good luck to you with the same problem.

04-23-2014, 01:10 PM	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	The DA L 18-55 WR uses the PH-RBC 52 hood, the same as the DA 18-55 WR. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/634700-REG/Pentax_38766_PH_RBC_52mm_Lens_Hood.html Steve

04-23-2014, 01:10 PM	#4
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	The 18-55 WR uses the PH-RBC hood, not the PH-RBA. No idea why it changed...

04-23-2014, 01:28 PM	#5
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301 Original Poster	Ah.. Thanks. Might grab the JJC version from ebay

04-23-2014, 01:42 PM	#6
oxidized Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA - Delaware Photos: Albums Posts: 435	Yup. Check ebay for cheapo Chinese knockoffs. They go for around 6-8 bucks shipped

04-23-2014, 01:47 PM	#7
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301 Original Poster	AUD$14 in this case - still fine by me. ► PH RBC Lens Hood Shade FOR Pentax DA 18 55mm F 3 5 5 6 AL WR 52mm Filter Thread \| eBay Incidentally, the PH-RBC is a 49mm non-petal hood according to the pentax web store?? PentaxWebstore.com:49mm Lens Hood PH-RBC 49mm Lens Hood PH-RBC

04-23-2014, 01:49 PM	#8
Pepe Le Pew Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 591	What filter would I need to buy for a HD DA 55-300mm F4-5.8 ED WR both Uv and Cpol?

04-23-2014, 01:54 PM	#9
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301 Original Poster	Best to start you're own thread rather than hijack this one with a totally unrelated question

04-23-2014, 02:31 PM	#10
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Best to check here: Pentax DA Zoom Lenses - Reviews and Specifications - SLR and Interchangeable Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database It usually says what filter sizes or hood type (in case its bayonet) fits. And yes its quite confusing that the filter size and hood vary

04-23-2014, 02:33 PM	#11
wombat2go Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	I use the original 2004 SMC Pentax -DA 1:3.5 ~5.6 18~55 AL with the PH-RBA 52mm hood and it is a useful lens but has a bit of a flare problem when getting around to close angles to the sun. Late afternoon facing west in our garden is a common photo I take here at parties etc. here is a comparison I made last year against the old SMC Pentax -M 1:2 50mm also with a Pentax hood. (early morning, the hood is just shading the lens, ..posted before) 18~55 https://app.box.com/s/xnir6j5sp99sdf05g6vs SMC Pentax-M 1:2 50mm https://app.box.com/s/izcv2q8akxhdh1ajxwuk The common internet wisdom (!?) is that modern lenses are more flare resistant due to better coating tech, but these shots show the opposite. I wonder if the newer hood is more effective and I would be interested to know if the newer 18 ~ 55 s versions with their hood are better in the sun than my original versions. Regards !

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04-23-2014, 04:55 PM	#12
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Incidentally, the PH-RBC is a 49mm non-petal hood according to the pentax web store?? That would be the PH-RBC 49. The hood names are suffixed with the filter diameter. Go figure. Steve

04-23-2014, 05:22 PM	#13
Tanzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Perrineville, NJ Posts: 1,375	The change was introduced with the DA 18-55 WR, after the DA 18-55 and DA 18-55ii models. I seem to recall the WR and non-WR outer diameter is close or identical, just the number of flanges is different, which I agree is a little frustrating. But that doesn't matter -- Pentax could have justified the different hood design, claiming (true or not) that the improved sealing necessitated a different barrel design, I'm guessing that when the DA-L WR was introduced, they just lifted existing parts off the DA WR.