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05-10-2014, 07:08 AM   #1
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Price check reality - takumar 20mm f4.5

Hi,

I saw the following listing on eBay for a Super Takumar super wide angle 20mm f4.5 for $695.

However pentax forums shows average price around $200. Other listing is at $249.

I asked seller why it's $695... Instead of answering or touting the features of the item, the seller instead assumed I was not a collector, blah, blah.

I just want a reality check on the price of this item. Any feedback is most welcome.

Thanks.

Pentax Super Takumar 20mm 4 5 Superwideangle Lens M42 Screwmount | eBay

05-10-2014, 08:48 AM   #2
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Pricing in the forum database goes back years and is averaged. There was a time when those takumars went for pennies, so the pricing is generally low. Also supply and demand are at work. The 50mm f/1.4 for example has been fairly steady over the last few years because there are a lot of them in the wild. Things like the 20mm and 24mm lenses just were not made in huge quantities and the price has moved up as they become more rare.

That said I think $695 is ummm..... optimistic. But $400 is not unreasonable and in good condition with case and hood? Well maybe they will get it. Some sellers there cater to collectors and just post listing at very high prices, it seems they do eventually get it.

I have the S-M-C version of the 20mm f/4.5 and while not anything like a modern lens it has a particular rendering that I like.

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Also, I am not sure this is the correct forum to ask questions like this. Unless you are posting a "wanted" ad?
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SMC 20/4.5 goes for $200-$250 in excellent shape. The plain Super version? Not sure but I'd guess about $100 less. Prices are erratic though as it is hard to find, which accounts for much of high price in first place. It is extremely commonplace to see all sorts of lenses (and everything else) way overpriced. There is not much point in wondering WHY?? and trying to get them to come down. People trolling for suckers, that's all...
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QuoteOriginally posted by chikkad Quote
I just want a reality check on the price of this item. Any feedback is most welcome.
The October 28, 2012 review by @tim60 here

S-M-C/Super Takumar 20mm F4.5 Reviews - M42 Screwmount Extreme Wide-Angle Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

gives an average of USD 215 as the result of a serious analysis of prices April 2011 to October 2012.

However, it's not clear if that includes the elaborate multi-part hood or not, or the case.

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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
The October 28, 2012 review by @tim60 here

S-M-C/Super Takumar 20mm F4.5 Reviews - M42 Screwmount Extreme Wide-Angle Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

gives an average of USD 215 as the result of a serious analysis of prices April 2011 to October 2012.

However, it's not clear if that includes the elaborate multi-part hood or not, or the case.
Ah yes, the crazy hood. I can tell you I listed one on ebay a year or so back with the hood for $250 and sold it within a hour...
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
The October 28, 2012 review by @tim60 here

S-M-C/Super Takumar 20mm F4.5 Reviews - M42 Screwmount Extreme Wide-Angle Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

gives an average of USD 215 as the result of a serious analysis of prices April 2011 to October 2012.

However, it's not clear if that includes the elaborate multi-part hood or not, or the case.


The prices were the AUD closing prices of eBay auctions from April 2010 to October 2012 (when I bought mine just after a 3 day meeting in Hoboken while talking to my former boss on Skype, who was visiting MIT at the time. Some had hoods, others did not, just as some may have been damaged or worn and some may have had original caps and case or not. That information was too complicated to record.


This morning I finished my Takumar collection with SMC Tak 120/2.8 at USD141.50 plus postage. Nice price on one those too, with hood, case and third party caps.
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