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05-26-2014, 10:54 AM   #1
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Which telephoto zoom to choose?

I am looking to buy a cheap telephoto lens to use when the 18-55 WR kit lens is not enough and zooming by feet is not an option. Mostly shooting landscapes, probably some shots of animals and birds.

Currently I could find these manageable used lens offers:

Pentax DA 50-200 f/4-5.6 ED WR
Pentax FA 80-320 f/4.5-5.6

...and for roughly half the price compared to those two above:
Pentax A 70-210 f/4
Tamron Di LD 70-300 f/4-5.6 Tele-Macro AF

Shooting macro would be great but not necessity, but so would be auto-focus or weather resistance.

I just can't make up my mind. Any suggestions?

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My recommendation would be to skip any and all of those and get a DA 55-300, any version. IMO, it is a superior lens, image quality and versatility. You can get the WR version to cover your weather needs. Pentax does not advertise it as a macro, because it isn't one, but you can get pretty close. If memory serves me right the magnification is 0.3... That can be confirmed in the lens reviews. The tamron us not a macro either, they just advertise that so people add value to it.
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Good notion. Actually I'm about to buy a used K5 body, so that we don't have to share the only dSLR in the house. So, I thought I'd get a cheapo telephoto zoom to use while getting money for proper glass. I've been looking at that 55-300 WR but its out of my price range currently.
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Based on my experience, try and find an F 70-210. It's not WR, but we really like that lens, especially for what we paid for it. The AF is a little noisey and it might wrench the camera out of your hands when it locks focus, but apart from those things, it's the ultimate bargain zoom lens for Pentax mount, In My Humble Opinion.

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You could always look to the DA-L 55-300 (non WR) used for less.
They should be the same glass, just w/o WR and metal mount + quick release.
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Best price of used 55-300 ED I could find was around ~300 €. Eekbay might save me few euros, have to take a look at that. That F 70-210 is interesting.

One option is to buy a supercheap 18-55 as a "body cap" until I bump into a bargain or win a lottery.
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Or go for a 135mm or 200mm prime lens as they are often found cheap and generaly perform much better than cheap zooms?
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The Tamron 70-300 is not good enough for the K5 - you will have unacceptable chromatic aberration - purple fringing. I don't know if the software solutions for that are good enough, but just skip it. If you were getting a K10 or Kx it would be OK.

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Like Normhead said, you want a 70-210. The A may be slightly better if Manual Focus is OK, but the F (which I have) is great if you want AF.

There is a Takumar F version (which differs only in lens coatings) that's great too and typically even cheaper. Look for the F 70-210/4-5.6 and not the similar looking ones with different aperture or 70-200 focal length - the images from them aren't as good from what I've seen.
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Like Normhead said, you want a 70-210. The A may be slightly better if Manual Focus is OK, but the F (which I have) is great if you want AF.

There is a Takumar F version (which differs only in lens coatings) that's great too and typically even cheaper. Look for the F 70-210/4-5.6 and not the similar looking ones with different aperture or 70-200 focal length - the images from them aren't as good from what I've seen.

Was about to ask about Takumar A 70-200 f/4 but I guess I already got an answer.

I'm comfortable with manual focus, but these digital thingies lack proper focusing screen. Do you guys use katzeye or something similar to help with manual focusing?
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I've been enjoying a Pentax F 80-200 f4.7-5.6 lately. Not a wide aperture lens but can be had for around $30 used in the U.S. and performs pretty well. Was manufactured in the early 90's and can autofocus really fast.

sample: https://www.flickr.com/photos/adudenamedjosh/14192710512/
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QuoteOriginally posted by ecky Quote
Best price of used 55-300 ED I could find was around ~300 €. Eekbay might save me few euros, have to take a look at that. That F 70-210 is interesting.

One option is to buy a supercheap 18-55 as a "body cap" until I bump into a bargain or win a lottery.
The DA L version should be a lot cheaper- as of today two were added to the marketplace, one for $175 and one for $200:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/24-photographic-equipment-sale/245884-sal...e-trade-2.html

I second the recommendation that this lens is optically superior to consumer tele zooms that came before it.

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Thanks Adam. I think I have to stick looking for european seller, since postage would probably cost more than enough from states to finland.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ecky Quote
Was about to ask about Takumar A 70-200 f/4 but I guess I already got an answer.

I'm comfortable with manual focus, but these digital thingies lack proper focusing screen. Do you guys use katzeye or something similar to help with manual focusing?
Truthfully you need to decide for yourself - my statements are based on what I've experienced and observed. The 70-210 images appeal to me more.


If you're particular about the Image Quality, use resources like these to look at the photos:

PENTAX : Select a PENTAX interchangeable lens camera or a lens model
Pentax smc P-F 70-210mm f/4-5.6 Lens Sample Photos and Specifications
Full-size sample photos from Pentax 70-210mm F/4
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I think my skills will be the limiting factor for a long time, not the IQ from the lens. Thank you all for the kind comments. I'll sleep on it and see what I will come up with tomorrow.
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