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10-14-2014, 06:00 PM   #1
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Swap FA* 85mm 1.4 for DA 70mm 2.4 Limited?

Hi everybody,

me again, thinking about lenses again...
This time, it is actually about SAVING money instead of throwing more of it away (I know, sounds crazy...).

I am not carrying my FA*85 1.4 around with me all that much, since the lens is a tank. I love it, but I only take it for "I-want-to-shoot-portraits" occasions.
But most of the time, right now I use the FA 31 limited for almost anything, and the size/weight of the 85 is a bit of a pain in the ass for casual walking around.
So I was thinking about selling the FA* and getting a DA 70 2.4 for around 300 bucks... If I manage to sell the FA* for at least 800 bucks (should be no problem), I can make 500 bucks that go into my drinking-fond...

What do you think?
Yes, no? Why, why not?
Other suggestions instead of the 70? Should I go 50? Should I go 100?
What would you do... etc. etc.


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10-14-2014, 06:18 PM   #2
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Split the middle, get the 77!
10-14-2014, 06:35 PM   #3
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No! Keep the 85 if it works well. You will have hard time finding one back if you regret, while both 70 and 77 are still in produce.
An used 70 doesn't cost too much, and you can bring it with you anywhere.
Well, if you can sell the lens to me, I will encourage you selling it :-)
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Sure! I'll trade my 70mm for your 85...

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I could go to the 77, but not the 70. The 70 is light and great, but it isn't the most amazing portrait lens ever - Fa 85. If you need 500 for your drinking fund you should spend that for rehab! The FA 85 is special.
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Blasphemy! I could maybe possibly if-i-had-to switch my FA* 85mm for the 77mm Limited, but 70mm is a no go. Never. Uh uh. Over my dead body.
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Haha, thanks for the many replies so far. Don't worry, the money is not actually planned for drinking.
I agree that the FA* is a GREAT portrait lens... but I sometimes worry how much of that is pixie dust, and whether a MUCH CHEAPER lens would not actually be good enough for my poor skills.
E.g., if I look at flickr, I find much great stuff with the lens, that I could not produce, no matter what lens....

EDIT: just also looked up pictures from the FA*85 again... DAMN! Maybe I should just refine my skills

EDIT2: ok. no. it really is a keeper. damn ^^
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The DA 70 is excellent. For its size it is the best Pentax has made, but the word is that the DA 55 is essentially the FA*85‘s aps-c clone. I can promise that if this is true, you step down greatly. My 55 blew the 70 away, not even close. The 85 - longer, faster focus, better isolation = the best it gets. There have been members that have switched from 85 to 77, but to 70 would be an adjustment. The 70 is sharper across the frame and to me, it isn't as good. The colors are excellent, except skin tones can get washed out, muted, or over stated. The DA 55 doesn't do that. I didn't think it was all going to beer :-)

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I have had shoots not go so well and everytime the DA 55 reminds me why I have it. Those dreamer lenses bail me out.
My portrait kit went to Sigma 30 EX, DA*55, and I am waiting on my 77 (which I got for $550 USD shipped, like New MIJ). I would love to try the FA*85.

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QuoteOriginally posted by zbrueningsen Quote
have had shoots not go so well and everytime the DA 55 reminds me why I have it. Those dreamer lenses bail me out.
My portrait kit went to Sigma 30 EX, DA*55, and I am waiting on my 77 (which I got for $550 USD shipped, like New MIJ). I would love to try the FA*85.
I would love to try out the 55 and the 77 actually! Especially the 77 to be honest, because I like the longer end more when it comes to portraits. And because the 31 is great

Unfortunately I am not doing very well with the 85 up to now, my pictures come out "meh" compared to what others do with it, but I know that's me and not the lens








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I think what I have learned is to always try something new, and learn the strengths of the lens. The 55 is supposedly just a shorter 85 (with slow AF and weather sealing, it even has the classic dome hood like the 85). Its strengths are smooth backgrounds and the bokeh is amazing even stopped down a lot. Busy background people will tell you it looks nervous. It is very kind to people's skin. I love mine, and while the 77 is supposedly amazing, I don't know if it will replace my 55.
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don't stress yourself too much. Just understand that the FA* 85 is probably the best lens for Pentax in that focal range top of the heap. I personally use a cheaper version of the FA*, the DA* 55mm f1.4 and it serves me well. Don't worry too much about getting the most out of that lens (or flickr envy) just giver yourself more time with the lens and take it on long dates to get to know it better.

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I have both the 55mm and the 85mm, they complement each other quite well.
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So essentially what we are saying is you shouldn't save money and downgrade, but buy the DA*55.
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QuoteOriginally posted by zbrueningsen Quote
So essentially what we are saying is you shouldn't save money and downgrade, but buy the DA*55.
Yeah, I kind of got that message... I hate you all so much right now

Nah, in all seriousness, you are probably right. Well, that's why I come to this forum in the first place, so I guess it figures I will not get rid of my metal tank, but rather get to know it better.

And NO, I WILL NOT BUY A DA*55 ! (not talking to you, but to my inner demons)
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