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10-18-2014, 08:42 AM   #1
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Wide lens for landscape

I will soon have the 18-55WR, plus my 55-300 DA. I'm looking for a wide lens for landscape, but hate fisheyes, so suggestions?

Also want a Macro in the future, so suggestions there as well. I would like to stay in the 200-400$ price range for each.

Thanks everyone!

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That budget will be difficult I think. There are many, many manual lenses available at good prices that were "wide" on FF but on APS-C they are no longer "wide". So we do not have the large supply of inexpensive glass available in the less than 28mm range. I assume since you will have the 18-55 you are looking for even wider? If so that is getting very quickly into what is called "ultra-wide" which often is considered 16mm and wider (on APS-C)

Some suggestions:
DA 15mm Limited
DA 12-24
Sigma 10-20 (two different variations)

However, unless you have a specific purpose in mind, you do not need ultra-wide for landscape. Many if not most of mine are taken with lenses between 20 and 35mm. Some of my favorite landscape shots are with the DA*60-250.
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QuoteOriginally posted by csa Quote
I'm looking for a wide lens for landscape
DA 21mm ltd, DA 15mm ltd, or the more affordable Samyang 16mm ltd if you don't mind manual focus. Samyang is also sold under other names like Rokinon, Bower, Walimex.. I find my Samynag 14mm, manual focus, to be a bit too wide for casual landscapes. Ultra wides are a difficult lens to use. Most people prefer to start (ultra)wide with Tamron 10-24mm or Sigma 10-20mm or Pentax 12-24mm. Zoom means you are not stuck in the "ultra wide" frame. Oh, and while manual focus can be annoying, it is the least annoying when it comes to ultra wide lenses, because they have a very deep depth of field, so its not terrible if you are a little off

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Also want a Macro in the future
Tamron 90mm, Sigma 105mm, Pentax DFA 100mm WR (or any of the previous 100mm, FA or F series. Same optical design)

Or if you want both "wide angle" and macro together, get DA 35mm f2.8 limited. Well liked lens, true 1:1 macro, but not really wide angle, and macro means AF is a little slower, and 35mm macro means you have to be as close as a couple centimeters to the subject. But it is a great lens, very sharp and contrasty, will blow away the kit lenses in every regard.

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I will soon have the 18-55WR, plus my 55-300 DA.
But I would advise you wait until you have these lenses and master them. Then you will learn if 18mm, 20mm, 35mm is wide enough for your landscape photos or not. Thing is, ultra wide angle means that everything that is even a couple meters away becomes very tiny in the frame. So ultra wide is not always the best choice for landscapes. Lots of people like using 40mm or 70mm for landscapes.

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+1 for @jatrax recommendations. 15mm is a gem, but 10-20 Sigma is a good alternative and very useful city travel lens.

And learning to stitch can be great for wide landscape. Then you can use a normal lens and get the FOV of an Ultra Wide-Angle. And you increase the image resolution if you need it. Plenty of cheap/free good stitching software. I use Hugin. Just don't try it on sea-sccapes or moving scenes...LOL

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"But I would advise you wait until you have these lenses and master them. Then you will learn if 18mm, 20mm, 35mm is wide enough for your landscape photos or not. Thing is, ultra wide angle means that everything that is even a couple meters away becomes very tiny in the frame. So ultra wide is not always the best choice for landscapes. Lots of people like using 40mm or 70mm for landscapes."

Thanks, that's excellent advice. I wouldn't be able to get additional lens until sometime next year, but want to get some idea of what I should look for.




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Kevin, what is a good program for stitching? I've never dabbled in it.
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I will soon have the 18-55WR, plus my 55-300 DA. I'm looking for a wide lens for landscape, but hate fisheyes, so suggestions?
At 18mm the DA18-55WR is quite wide. If you need to go wider then you can always stitch a few shots in a panorama






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Kevin, what is a good program for stitching? I've never dabbled in it.
Try Hugin. it is free and runs on Windows/Linux. It can be a little complicated, but for landscapes it is good and has an easy mode it the subject matter is simple. Load images -> Align -> Stitch

When you shoot, try to go to manual exposure and WB so that each image is the same level. But the program will fix that within reason if you forget.

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Kevin, what is a good program for stitching? I've never dabbled in it.
If you are on Windows, try Microsoft ICE (a free download). Take images in RAW, then convert to TIFF, stitch and save the results in TIFF in order to retain the most information. You can also use JPG.

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Nice images! Yes, they are indeed wide!

I'll give both of those programs a try, the easiest will be better, as I'm far from a computer wizz.
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Microsoft ICE is far-and-away easier.
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csa- I would like to get a super wide as well, but my best landscapes are 28- 50 range and past that. I have been looking at several SW samyang, rokinon and tokina for third party anyway. My best to date was shot with a Nifty Fifty. If you buy please post would love to hear how it works for you.
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Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 is available used for $350-$400.
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The Sigma Super Wide & Super Wide II 24mm F/2.8 are available on eBay for around $100 to $150. Not macro, but they focus down to 1:4, and @ 24mm are equivalent to 35mm of FF. But 24mm is probably the best focal length of the 18-55...

Macro on a budget is much easier than wide. Just get a Raynox and use it with the 55-300.
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"Macro on a budget is much easier than wide. Just get a Raynox and use it with the 55-300."

Thanks, but I want to get a macro lens; Raynox, etc. is not the route I want to go. I'm thinking when I'm ready, from reading the threads here, a Pentax 100 macro might be something to look into.
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