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05-16-2008, 02:05 PM   #16
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Thank you for the reminder of manual lenses. I've never used a manual lens and guess I feel addicted to AF. I am interested in learning new things though.

Any suggestions as to what is considered an amazing old manual lense that is also at a great price if I wanted to try a manual lens for the first time?? Is the K20D viewfinder considered good enough for manual focus?

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Well you get focus confirmation. A hexagon at the bottom of the viewfinder tells you when you are focused. That works as a charm.

Depends on what focal length you tend to use I can recommend these from the ones I own

Helios 44-2 58mm/2f
Super Takumar 150mm
SMC Takumar 200mm

Those are all three very good lenses.
6160215 - a set on Flickr
Test shots with my 200mm, unedited shot in raw and converted to JPG, no sharpness added.

I will during the upcoming days post more testpictures with all my manual lenses in this collection:
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Thank you - I will keep an eye on some of those lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Henrik Kristensen Quote
Thank you for the reminder of manual lenses. I've never used a manual lens and guess I feel addicted to AF. I am interested in learning new things though.

Any suggestions as to what is considered an amazing old manual lense that is also at a great price if I wanted to try a manual lens for the first time?? Is the K20D viewfinder considered good enough for manual focus?

Henrik,

Take a look in my Sig - I highly recommend every manul focus lens in my sig. You can say I've done a lot of research and tried a whole lot of lenses , and the M's & Super Takumars I've kept in my sig are inexpensive and very, very good. The convenience of AF is wonderful, but if you have time to compose your shot, a good manual lens gives images every bit as good and better. Plus, once you start using them, you'll discover a fun-factor that AF doesn't give you. Enjoy.



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I would add to jsherman999's sig list of great manual Pentax lenses

SMC Pentax 35mm f/3.5 (under $200 USD usually)
SMC Pentax 28mm f/3.5 (under $300 USD usually)

Angle of view of either on a APS-c body (K20D/K10D) is close to what was a normal lens on a film body.
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Congrats on the new toy! I just got my K10D a little less than a month ago. Only have kit lenses and the FA f/1.4 right now, but still having a blast. Nice first picture! Looking forward to seeing more.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
Take a look in my Sig - I highly recommend every manul focus lens in my sig. You can say I've done a lot of research and tried a whole lot of lenses
And you can say that again!
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Great kit Henrik, congrats!!
I highly recommend the FA 31/1.8 Limited, incredible lens.
The Takumars, like the others have mentioned, are addictive lenses. Their build quality is off the charts, they make manual focusing a dream. Not owning a K20D, I can't comment on how it is for manual focusing, but the KatzEye screen improved my K10D's manual focusing abilities immeasurably. I prefer manual focusing when time permits. The original SMC K-mount lenses are very cool as well, and then there are the M-series and A-series, oh, and the F's and FA's:-).
You're in for a treat, the thing I love the most about the Pentax system is their compatibility with all the older glass, have fun and let's see more pics!!!
Oh, the FA 50/1.4, although not quite up to the build quality of the older lenses is a very very nice piece of glass, highly recommended.

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Thanks. You guys are great.

So Jsherman: I see you have both the M 200 f/4 and the Super Takumars 200 f4 - why both and which is best? If I were to try these manual lenses I would probably want something in the range of 200-300mm (not zoom but a focal point somewhere in that range) which is not too big/heavy and sharp wide open - any suggestions (and which of the two above fits best)?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Henrik Kristensen Quote
Thanks. You guys are great.

So Jsherman: I see you have both the M 200 f/4 and the Super Takumars 200 f4 - why both and which is best? If I were to try these manual lenses I would probably want something in the range of 200-300mm (not zoom but a focal point somewhere in that range) which is not too big/heavy and sharp wide open - any suggestions (and which of the two above fits best)?
I got the SMC-M 200 and the S-M-C 300. And If you are going to choose between them, Id say get a 200.
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If you go with takumars make sure you get the pentax m42 adapter
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QuoteOriginally posted by frogger Quote
If you go with takumars make sure you get the pentax m42 adapter
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absolutely, you would be doing yourself a favor to go with the genuine pentax adapter I assure you.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Henrik Kristensen Quote
Thanks. You guys are great.

So Jsherman: I see you have both the M 200 f/4 and the Super Takumars 200 f4 - why both and which is best? If I were to try these manual lenses I would probably want something in the range of 200-300mm (not zoom but a focal point somewhere in that range) which is not too big/heavy and sharp wide open - any suggestions (and which of the two above fits best)?
The SMC-M 200 at f/4 is 95% as sharp as the Super Tak at f/4, but it's smaller and lighter, so I probably prefer it over the Super Tak. I can hold lighter lenses more steady. Less hand shake makes for more keeper shots.

Also, my Super Tak 200 is stuck wide open at f/4 - aperture blades don't move. (I bought it for $10 I think. You could say it's a "constant aperture prime" ) I want to either fix it myself or have someone else (pro) fix it, but I haven't got around to that yet. Even stuck wide open, it produces pretty sharp shots, like the one below. I want to get it fixed or get another so I can see how it does stopped down.

Super Takumar 200mm f/4 wide open:


Here are shots taken with the M 200 f/4 (which I highly recommend) --> M200f4

And then another one to consider if you run across it - The Komine-built Vivitar 200mm f/3.5 m42 mount --> Vivitar_200_m42

Reviews/photos of the Viv ---> PentaxForums.com Third-Party Pentax Lens Review Database - 200mm f/3.5 Auto Telephoto m42 mount



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Shot taken with S-M-C 300mm/1:4f M42. Not wide open though, can't remember what aperture.
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