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**filoxophy** · 11-02-2014, 05:06 AM

The 40 in Ltd or XS guise is so small that it doesn't count. So get the 21 and the 40!

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Kozlok · 11-02-2014, 06:35 AM

It shocks me how dim everyone is being today. You obviously should get them both. ��

MBike74 · 11-02-2014, 08:00 AM

If I can only take one lens around a city and I want a small profile; the 21mm always gets the nod. It's almost wide enough for most buildings and environments, and more than pretty decent for people. Plus your camera will handle like a dream. If I have a jacket or cargo pants on, then I will carry the 43ltd too.

**mwilky55** · 11-02-2014, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by Outis

So, I've been thinking about getting a pancake lens-- it would be really nice to to throw my K-3 in my purse and just take it everywhere with me.*

I'm not sure whether I would be better off with the 21mm or the 40mm, though. I tend more towards landscapes and buildings, and less towards people and flowers. It would still be nice to have versatility, though. The lens I use the most is the 31mm, which handles everything with grace. I also have the 15mm already, which is small enough for the purse treatment. It's terrible for portraits, though, unless everyone wants a giant nose

Any thoughts? Do I want the 21mm, the 40mm, or something else entirely?

*Notice how this thought ended up at "I need another lens," not "I need a bigger purse"? This is the way things should be, right? Right? My own flimsy justification is that if you have a purse that's too big, some places will make you surrender it, and then you don't have the camera, so that's no good...

Or if you got a bigger purse you'd be tempted to pack a zoom

Glen · 11-02-2014, 08:37 AM

I have the DA15 and FA43 plus some zooms. You're correct about the 15 being no good for people (although it is a wonderful lens). The 43 can be a fine portrait lens and is my favorite lens but I often find it too long for all-around use. When I'm using my zooms, they are nearly always set at 21 to 24 so I would recommend the 21. I would get it myself but the price seems to have crept up a bit to where it seems over priced. When I bought my 43 it was around twice the price as the 21. I'll pick up a 21 when I come across a nice local used unit. I hope that helps.

**mattb123** · 11-02-2014, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

I have a 15, 21, 40 and 70 Limited primes.

I have found that once I brought the 15 I haven't used the 21 that much. It is a very nice small lens, but I just find the 15 better for landscapes.

Further to what Matt has posted - the 15, 40 and 70 make a very good small 3 prime kit. You wouldn't loose much with a 21, 40, 70 kit either, which would be even smaller

I'm adding a 70 this week to complete that kit!

Outis · 11-02-2014, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Kozlok

It shocks me how dim everyone is being today. You obviously should get them both. ��

But I keep DOING this and then I have no money! It's bad! Make it stop!

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Doh! I didn't check his profile.

Purse? Dude, I'm a girl!

Originally posted by Glen

I have the DA15 and FA43 plus some zooms. You're correct about the 15 being no good for people (although it is a wonderful lens). The 43 can be a fine portrait lens and is my favorite lens but I often find it too long for all-around use. When I'm using my zooms, they are nearly always set at 21 to 24 so I would recommend the 21. I would get it myself but the price seems to have crept up a bit to where it seems over priced. When I bought my 43 it was around twice the price as the 21. I'll pick up a 21 when I come across a nice local used unit. I hope that helps.

Hmm, maybe carrying the 40 and the 15 would be the way to go, then. Or maybe I should just take one of my zooms out for a couple of days and see how well I do with it only set to 21, and then only set to 40.

**savoche** · 11-02-2014, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Outis

Hmm, maybe carrying the 40 and the 15 would be the way to go, then. Or maybe I should just take one of my zooms out for a couple of days and see how well I do with it only set to 21, and then only set to 40.

15+40 would be a very nice combination. But trying out how you like each focal length on a zoom is definitely worth doing. We all shoot in different ways and thus like different focal lengths.

Umm, but yeah, 21+40 would be a great combo, too

Sandy Hancock · 11-02-2014, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Outis

Purse? Dude, I'm a girl!

My bad. I didn't pick up on the "purse" nuance. I guess it's one of the problems with hiding behind pseudonyms on internet forums. Even using my real name I frequently get mistaken for a woman

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11-02-2014, 05:06 AM	#16
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133	The 40 in Ltd or XS guise is so small that it doesn't count. So get the 21 and the 40! I keep my 40XS in one of these cases from Radio Shack. Perfect fit! AUVIO Zippered Earbuds Case : Headphones \| RadioShack.com

11-02-2014, 06:35 AM	#17
Kozlok Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Albuquerque Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,148	It shocks me how dim everyone is being today. You obviously should get them both. ��

11-02-2014, 08:00 AM	#18
MBike74 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Litchfield Park AZ Posts: 78	If I can only take one lens around a city and I want a small profile; the 21mm always gets the nod. It's almost wide enough for most buildings and environments, and more than pretty decent for people. Plus your camera will handle like a dream. If I have a jacket or cargo pants on, then I will carry the 43ltd too.

11-02-2014, 08:20 AM	#19
mwilky55 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southeastern Connecticut Photos: Albums Posts: 816	Originally posted by Outis So, I've been thinking about getting a pancake lens-- it would be really nice to to throw my K-3 in my purse and just take it everywhere with me.* I'm not sure whether I would be better off with the 21mm or the 40mm, though. I tend more towards landscapes and buildings, and less towards people and flowers. It would still be nice to have versatility, though. The lens I use the most is the 31mm, which handles everything with grace. I also have the 15mm already, which is small enough for the purse treatment. It's terrible for portraits, though, unless everyone wants a giant nose Any thoughts? Do I want the 21mm, the 40mm, or something else entirely? *Notice how this thought ended up at "I need another lens," not "I need a bigger purse"? This is the way things should be, right? Right? My own flimsy justification is that if you have a purse that's too big, some places will make you surrender it, and then you don't have the camera, so that's no good... Or if you got a bigger purse you'd be tempted to pack a zoom

11-02-2014, 08:37 AM	#20
Glen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 329	I have the DA15 and FA43 plus some zooms. You're correct about the 15 being no good for people (although it is a wonderful lens). The 43 can be a fine portrait lens and is my favorite lens but I often find it too long for all-around use. When I'm using my zooms, they are nearly always set at 21 to 24 so I would recommend the 21. I would get it myself but the price seems to have crept up a bit to where it seems over priced. When I bought my 43 it was around twice the price as the 21. I'll pick up a 21 when I come across a nice local used unit. I hope that helps.

11-02-2014, 09:41 AM	#21
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,874	Originally posted by NZ_Ross I have a 15, 21, 40 and 70 Limited primes. I have found that once I brought the 15 I haven't used the 21 that much. It is a very nice small lens, but I just find the 15 better for landscapes. Further to what Matt has posted - the 15, 40 and 70 make a very good small 3 prime kit. You wouldn't loose much with a 21, 40, 70 kit either, which would be even smaller I'm adding a 70 this week to complete that kit!

11-02-2014, 10:25 AM	#22
Outis Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 935 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kozlok It shocks me how dim everyone is being today. You obviously should get them both. �� But I keep DOING this and then I have no money! It's bad! Make it stop! Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Doh! I didn't check his profile. Purse? Dude, I'm a girl! Originally posted by Glen I have the DA15 and FA43 plus some zooms. You're correct about the 15 being no good for people (although it is a wonderful lens). The 43 can be a fine portrait lens and is my favorite lens but I often find it too long for all-around use. When I'm using my zooms, they are nearly always set at 21 to 24 so I would recommend the 21. I would get it myself but the price seems to have crept up a bit to where it seems over priced. When I bought my 43 it was around twice the price as the 21. I'll pick up a 21 when I come across a nice local used unit. I hope that helps. Hmm, maybe carrying the 40 and the 15 would be the way to go, then. Or maybe I should just take one of my zooms out for a couple of days and see how well I do with it only set to 21, and then only set to 40.

11-02-2014, 11:14 AM	#23
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,312	Originally posted by Outis Hmm, maybe carrying the 40 and the 15 would be the way to go, then. Or maybe I should just take one of my zooms out for a couple of days and see how well I do with it only set to 21, and then only set to 40. 15+40 would be a very nice combination. But trying out how you like each focal length on a zoom is definitely worth doing. We all shoot in different ways and thus like different focal lengths. Umm, but yeah, 21+40 would be a great combo, too

11-02-2014, 02:39 PM	#24
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,276	Originally posted by Outis Purse? Dude, I'm a girl! My bad. I didn't pick up on the "purse" nuance. I guess it's one of the problems with hiding behind pseudonyms on internet forums. Even using my real name I frequently get mistaken for a woman

21mm or 40mm or something else?

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