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05-17-2008, 03:09 PM   #1
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Help me spend some money on some glass

So, I have about 1000 coming to me to spend on some lenses, and I'm kind of debating on a few different lenses. I'm one of those people that tells people to spend their money on good glass as its the best investment.

With that, what I have now is this:
Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5
FA 35 f/2
FA 50 f/1.4
Tak 135 f/2.5 NON SMC

I do wedding photography every once in a while, but its not my main thing. I'm mostly a street photographer when I get a chance and I love prime lenses. Here is what I'm debating on:

Zeies 85mm f/1.4
pentax 85mm f/1.4 fa or a (if I can find some cheap enough)
pentax da* 16-50 f/2.8 and a 10-17 fisheye
sigma 24-70 2.8 and various other fun lenses
pentax fa* 24mm f/2
pentax fa* 135 f/1.8

I should also say this, I've used a few pancake lenses and hated how they feel. the quality is fine, I just hate how small they are. I'm not afraid of manual focus either, and I can/will sell some of my lenses if needed.

So, what would you do if you were me?

05-17-2008, 03:26 PM   #2
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I am affraid that 1000 would not be enough for the 135 f1.8 if you find it. I would consider at that range the voigtlander 125 f2.5. I think that it would be a good investment. If you like exotic pentaxes I would also add the A15 f3.5, the 200 f2.5 and the 28 f3.5 shift. I may be able to help you with the last one . If they were fairly priced I would jump on a pentax 200 macro also, but they are never fairly priced
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its not the exotic I'm looking for. I loved my nikon 85mm when I was a nikon man, and I want to replace it, but since the chance of me getting the fa* 85mm for 1k is next to nill, then the zeies or pentax a are an option. for street shooting, the 24 would be great, and I love the 135 that I have (no matter what people say about it). but the practical side of me is wanting the sigma or the pentax 16-50 2.8....
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QuoteOriginally posted by chadvw Quote
its not the exotic I'm looking for. I loved my nikon 85mm when I was a nikon man, and I want to replace it, but since the chance of me getting the fa* 85mm for 1k is next to nill, then the zeies or pentax a are an option. for street shooting, the 24 would be great, and I love the 135 that I have (no matter what people say about it). but the practical side of me is wanting the sigma or the pentax 16-50 2.8....
if you have about $1k to spend, how about getting an FA77 for portrait length and then the DA21 for your street photography.

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If you like primes, and do not mind manual lenses, the K 30mm/2.8, 85mm/1.8, and 200mm/2.5 are IMO some of the best glass Pentax has ever made, mechanically and optically. You might even get lucky and be able to pick up all three on your budget. That being said, I have recently sold all of my older glass and "upgraded" to the DA* lenses, simply for the modern conveniences. They are great lenses, but I do miss my K glass. Hopefully the rest of the DA* primes are coming soon, as I like primes much more than zooms...
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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
if you have about $1k to spend, how about getting an FA77 for portrait length and then the DA21 for your street photography.
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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
if you have about $1k to spend, how about getting an FA77 for portrait length and then the DA21 for your street photography.
Good suggestion. Another: used DA 21ltd + new DA* 50-135== ~$1000
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the da 21 limited is out. not only is it a pancake, its also to slow for me. the 50-135 for some reason doesn't interest me in the slightest, I would rather spend the money on someone's 70-200, a bit more practical in my opinion.

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QuoteOriginally posted by chadvw Quote
I should also say this, I've used a few pancake lenses and hated how they feel. the quality is fine, I just hate how small they are. I'm not afraid of manual focus either, and I can/will sell some of my lenses if needed.
oops missed this part.

QuoteOriginally posted by chadvw Quote
the da 21 limited is out. not only is it a pancake, its also to slow for me. the 50-135 for some reason doesn't interest me in the slightest, I would rather spend the money on someone's 70-200, a bit more practical in my opinion.
it's hard to find wide and fast primes, if not the FA* 24mm then you'd have to go with the Sigma wides or you if you can find one the Sigma 24mm 2.8 like the one reviewed by photozone is a good lens.

then get the FA77!
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the 77 is definitely an option...something like that combined with a sigma 20 or 24mm f/1.8 could work nicely for the portraits and the street.....
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QuoteOriginally posted by chadvw Quote
the 50-135 for some reason doesn't interest me in the slightest, I would rather spend the money on someone's 70-200, a bit more practical in my opinion.
That's exactly what I thought - until I shot a friend's for half a day. I hit B&H that night and ordered it.

The 50-135 range seems a bit strange at first - not wide, not long - but if you notice, it covers several of the focal ranges you had in your potentials list (85, 135...)

I think of mine as a series of excellent primes between 50 and 135mm. I love shooting my 50, 85, and 135 primes - the DA* 50-135 is so close to those in IQ that I can usually not tell what shots were taken with my primes at those lengths and which with the DA*, unless I look at EXIF. The primes are smaller/lighter and generally have better bokeh, and are faster, but the DA*'s sharpness/color/contrast is pretty much effectively equal to my best primes.
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If you do weddings and love primes, try a couple of really old K mounts.

I have a 105 F2.8 it is sharp and soft at the same time, great for portraits if you can step back a little.

ALso look for the 85mm F1.8. this woould be a great portrait lens for 1/4 shots
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
If you do weddings and love primes, try a couple of really old K mounts.

I have a 105 F2.8 it is sharp and soft at the same time, great for portraits if you can step back a little.
The K105 2.8 is very very sharp and is great for the right kind of shot. But the bokeh can be a bit scary - I find it's very contrasty, so that OOF highlights can be a bit aggressive. It's terrific for architecture, say, and for more moody shots if you keep an eye on the background. Similar in size, appearance and handling to the M135.

We never hear much about this lens - I don't think they made many.
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I have my 135 tak for that range, and I love the lens, amazingly beautiful bokeh and nice and sharp (and yes, its the non SMC version)
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Of the choices you have listed I like the "pentax da* 16-50 f/2.8 and a 10-17 fisheye" I have both. Ony had the 16-50 a week - but I do love it.

As mentioned Fast Wide primes are indeed a rare bread. There was a prime 14mm in the Market place a while ago. You might look at the Sigma 10-20 although it may be not be fast enough. Tamron is suppose to come with a new wide zoom 4.5 at the wide end I think.

It's fun to window shop good luck !

Edit: I forgot to mention if you are really stuck send the money here I can help for sure!

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