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Leica 28mm 416.00%
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11-14-2014, 08:00 AM   #16
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You just judge by the more vocal and obnoxious Leica users... I'm sure there's a few Pentaxians that misbehave as well

The truth is, these are wonderful tools for photography... and there are people using them well. The "is it worth it" question is usually answered the same way any premium product would be. People pay more for consistency, quality and attention to detail. There's nothing wrong with having something you are proud to own and delighted to use.

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Hello,
A budy tell me about a Leitz Elmarit-R 28mm f2.8 at a price of 200€, I've heard a lot about Lecia lens but have never experience one.
How this lens compare to the legendary FA 31mm ? Is the price accurate ?
Thanks for your opinion !
There are so many variations on lenses so you have to know exactly which lens you are talking about.
I own both lenses and paid $900 for my new FA31 on Ebay and $1800 for a used (like new) 28mm Elmarit 6-bit coded (most recent issue) from Adorama.
I love both brands but Leica lenses are incomparable...and also ridiculously priced.

I only buy used equipment from reliable sources and it's the only way that I could have ever come close to affording my 8 year old Leica M8....
I actually paid more for the lens than I did for the M8 but I love shooting with it.

both taken with Leica M8 and 28mm Elmarit f2.8




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I have an old Leica Rangefinder, with a 5cm F 3.5, collapsible Elmar. I have a bunch of Pentax lenses. I've used extensively a Leica M4 ...with a 28mm, 50mm and 90mm.

Leica quality, in my experience is top notch. But I've also found Takumar and Pentax quality lenses....with the exception of my 18-55 kit lens...to also be of a very high quality.
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QuoteOriginally posted by drypenn Quote
Leica is not really into photography. It's a religion.
And FA Limiteds aren't?

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/278978-holy...ou-use-em.html

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This holy trinity thing is new and only God knows if it will catch on... They've always been known as the Three Amigos ...
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And FA Limiteds aren't? The Holy FA Trinity - how do you use 'em?
a very cool thread, I'm saving for the FA77 and FA31 right now ^^
QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
They've always been known as the Three Amigos ...
The FA 43 seems to be the less famous of the three

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QuoteOriginally posted by zzaletel Quote
A few Elmarit sample pics - Dry fitting Untitled Honda S65 Untitled
thanks for your sample photos, very useful
QuoteOriginally posted by drypenn Quote
Leica is not really into photography. It's a religion.
well, I think it's a religion for a reason their lens are still top-notch in the industry
QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Leicaphiles tend to sort of pretend that the "R" lenses exist.
I don't get it why they have to pretend ? R lens exist !!
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QuoteOriginally posted by redcat Quote
The FA 43 seems to be the less famous of the three
I sort of agree... there's people who swear by the 43, but I'm yet to see the pixel fairies work on it. It seems like a very good, serviceable lens, but Pentax has lots of those. To me the ideal 3 Amigos setup would be the 31, the DA*55 and the 77. Now these are seriously magical lenses!

Yet, judging by what most here say, I'd guess the ideal 3-lens setup for Pentax APS-C would be the DA 15, the FA31 and FA77. I'd love to try out that theory someday
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DA 15, the FA31 and FA77
agreed ! I'd love to have these 3 on Full Frame, the DA*55 is good but we can use either FA31 or FA77 to manage to 55mm the DA15 on the other hand is unbeatable for wide angle, normally I have to increase Saturation on every photo I shoot but with DA 15, the saturation is so good that I don't have to color-retouch at all !

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The FA 43 seems to be the less famous of the three
Ironically, in the context of this Leica/Pentax thread,
it's the one Limited that was offered in a Leica mount:

FS: Pentax-L 43mm f1.9 Limited Special LTM (leica thread mount) - FM Forums

EXC Pentax SMC 43mm F 1 9 Special L39 for Leica Screw Mount in Black from Japan | eBay
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it's the one Limited that was offered in a Leica mount:
wow, it's an eye opener !! I'll search for photos shoot by this lens on Leica and see what they produce ^^
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I don't get it why they have to pretend ? R lens exist !!
The Leica R series are SLR lenses and many Leicaphiles sort of look down on that branch of the company's product line. The comment generally goes like this..."Leica R? Sure, they are great lenses, but you know, they were made for SLRs and don't reflect the true Leica philosophy." This line of thinking is pure silliness, of course, but so is much of the cult of Leica.


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The Leica R series are SLR lenses and many Leicaphiles sort of look down on that branch of the company's product line. The comment generally goes like this..."Leica R? Sure, they are great lenses, but you know, they were made for SLRs and don't reflect the true Leica philosophy." This line of thinking is pure silliness, of course, but so is much of the cult of Leica.
okey, see the whole story now thanks ! I read many good review on these R lens, so the philosohy will not affect me, I'm bad at philosophy anyway =))
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R lenses look, to me, as good as M lenses, at least on the web. Maybe if you do large prints there's a difference.

But what do I know...
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R lenses look, to me, as good as M lenses, at least on the web. Maybe if you do large prints there's a difference.
I rarely print photos so that doesn't bother me as long as the photos look nice on my screen, it's ok ^^
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Well, I started with the 43ltd and got interested. How would the 77ltd act compairing to the 43ltd? And now... just bought the 31ltd! All of them are just simply great! It all depends what kind of motive and picture you want. Probably it's the same with Leica AND of course what camera you use and feel comfortable with. In this moment I want the FA20 or the A20 to complete my line up.

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