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05-19-2008, 12:20 PM   #1
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DA* help 16-50mm or 50-135mm???


In just over a month I'm going to a huge arts + music festival (Glastonbury) in the UK which is just down the road from me. I have a press pass and the idea is to borrow the NEW K20D + DA* 200mm & DA* 300mm from pentax and take them for a test in the conditions (it nearly always rains once!) and then write a little review to go in pentax user mag (which i won't get paid for )

I currently have a K10D with Grip + 16-45mm f/4 + 50mm f/1.7 + 50-200mm f/4-5.6 + the 540 flash.

I am wondering about upgrading either the 16-45mm f/4 to the da* 16-50mm f/2.8 or the 50-200mm f/4-5.6 to the da* 50-135mm f/2.8

at some point when i have the money i will get the other one. I'm just not sure which would be more useful. My gut tells me the da* 16-50mm as my everyday lens is the 16-45mm

I'm also thinking maybe waiting for the rumoured da* 60-250 f/4 might be more usefull than the da* 50-135mm f/2.8 even if it's a bit slower but i mean its only one stop!

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05-19-2008, 12:31 PM   #2
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I'd keep you 16-45 and get the 50-135. If you're going to be testing the DA* 200 & 300, you have the long end covered by them for the festival.

I think the 60-250's going to be a huge lens, right? Also, I'm doubting that it will quite match the 50-135's IQ - I'm sure it will be very good, but the 50-135's more restrictive focal range allows higher IQ for the manufacturing cost - or at least, that's how it usually works. We'll have to see just how good that 60-250 is.
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my vote is for the 50-135mm ... I have heard that the 16-45 isn't all that far off the 16-50's IQ anyway. The 50-135mm is a stunner though.
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I own both, the 16-45mm f/4 and the 50-135mm 2.8 and am very satisfied with them. The 50-135 is great with the 1.3 firmware on my K10D, and with all the bad press I was reading about the 16-50 I chose to get the 16-45 and for alot less money. I have to agree with the others, spend your hard earned on the 50-135, I don't think you'll regret the purchase.

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I think you'll notice the biggest image quality improvement, going from 50-200 to the 50-135, rather than the 16-45 to the 16-50. I had both the 50-200 and the 50-135 at the same time, thought I 'd keep the 50-200 for the extra reach, but the 50-135 spoiled me too much and had to get rid of the 50-200.
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I've found the 50-135 to be a nearly ideal* short-to-medium tele and a good match for the majority of my shooting needs. I think you'd like it, too.

*if only it were just a bit longer at the top end, sometimes!
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With the DA*50-135 Pentax have made a very good lens, and from past experience from many concert shootings, unless we talk a very large stadium, that covers much of the most useful range, and as someone else already stated, you will anyway have the DA*200 and 300. As for speed, one step can matter a lot with that sort of photographing. I used to shoot in this sort of situation initially with the A100/2.8 and later on with the A*135/1.8, and the speed of those lenses and the fair quality even wide open was often necessary. A dark zoom would not have been a good alternative. Thank Pentax for the 50-135/2.8!!

Bring a monopod.

I could also test the DA*200 and 300 for free. Please Pentax Scandinavia, here I am!
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Keep the 16-45 and get the 50-135....The 16-45 is a very fine lens and as I own both the 16-50 and the 16-45, I can attest to that. I doubt if you could tell the difference between the two. I highly recommend this as your choice.

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the DA*50-135 hands down. The DA*60-250 isn't going to be anyones everyday lens, that thing is huge, bigger than the DA*300 from the pics I've seen.
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What everyone else said. I don't see any deficiency in my DA16-45 compared to the posted images of the DA* I have trawled fanatically.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Buddha Jones Quote
the DA*50-135 hands down. The DA*60-250 isn't going to be anyones everyday lens, that thing is huge, bigger than the DA*300 from the pics I've seen.
I concur! When I was shooting my MZ-S 35mm, I skipped the 70-200 in favor of Sigma's 100-300 F4 and while that was a good lens, I found that I really missed the focal length of the 70-200 range for the majority of my shooting.

I have now got the DA* 16-50 and 50-135 and find those two cover most of my shooting needs. I would like a prime longer lens but I am waiting to see what comes next - if a good 400mm lens is introduced, I will go for the 200 F2.8 and the 400 ..other wise I may just get the 300 F4. Of course I am hoping for the 11-16 F2.8 as well to cover off the wide end. And Pentax, if you are listening ...a good 70mm macro. Actually what would be really nice is a 60-120 true macro zoom. (like Nikons 70-180).

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16-45 is very good lenses. you wont need that extra stop i think.

in this case i think you better get that 50-135.
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Very pleased to read you all. I've just bought 16-45 last month to replace my 18-55 (at this time, I haven't notice big improvement on landscape pictures) and I'm waiting for the 50-135 ordered this morning (I hope I'll saw difference with 50-200) !

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