Originally posted by lytrytyr The DA 35 Ltd and DA 20-40 each have distinct unique properties,
which in turn are different from the properties of Hirakawa's FA 43 and FA 77,
or from the FA 31 Ltd.
I didn't mention the DA 70, but it has its own rendering -- "gentle", "pastel",
which some photographers have used to great effect.
So it does not really make sense to talk about a single "DA rendering",
or to reserve the term "artistic" for the FA Limited lenses.
Sure each is different, but there "constants" or familly in rendering. It is easy to spot (at least for me) the familly. FA share some property, warmer maybe, still softer color. The OOF look clearly different with more shifting in colors than DA (violet/green variation depend of before/after focus). The colors are overall less punchy but still subtle tone are really present and rendered.
On the contrary DA ltd are more punchy colors, they are optimized for digital and it clearly show by having a different rendering than FA and that is shared by the different DA. Out of all the DA I tryed, none have the same level of "3D pop" the FA ltd do exibit.
I would agree then the FA31 and FA77 have softer OOF overall while the FA43 can have quite present bokeh in particular for highlight. The DA15 as one of most punchy DA rendering maybe with also DA20-40. The DA do not exibit the "spicy" design of the philosophy of FA ltd to undercorrect a bit some optical features to get more "interresting" rendering. The DA tend more to aim more neutral while still having nice colors.
Theses are also other obvious properties like the wider apperture of FA ltd, the apperture ring, lack of quick shift, less flare resistance overall for the FA ltd.
To me the FA20-35 render more like FA35 or FA28 than of DA20-40... And I see quite some aspect of the DA35 ltd or DA15 or DA70 in the DA20-40, more than of what I see from the FA77 or FA35...
At least for me even they are all different, there clear common point and differents per familly.